The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[samzadgan]

guys…you may have seen that i've put my BAT Sarcophagus on FS/FT on B/S/T, but if anyone is interested, i would split the shipping cost with you guys…

http://ilovefuzz.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=38604

[HeavyXIII]

It's a Laney AOR. It doesn't have a fixed bias AFAIK, but I'm not super familiar with the power section anyway.

That amp is fixed bias. Even if you can adjust the bias fixed refers to the bias scheme rather than if it's adjustable or not

This is what happens when go play my instrument and go to work. I miss informed responses to my questions and dungeons, tubs and boners all around.

So to finish, does that mean I can swap in a new set of tubes that have the ssame rating as these:

[samzadgan]

I need some tube help.

I've had the Jet City 50w head now for a few weeks and really liking it…but i would like to refine the sound a bit. I've heard another one which has upgraded tubes and it sounds really nice.

does anyone have any suggestions for preamp valves and positions? For power tubes i'm going with a pair of JJ 6L6GC's

[Timm Grimm]

I don't know if anyone was interested in this to start, but the thunderbird or not but I'm now going for a straight sell. If anyone here buys it, I'll let you have it for $425 instead of $450.

http://ilovefuzz.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=38597

On another note the rig I have lined up is a peavey vta 400 tube amp and a Sunn 215bh with the magna drivers that were recently reconed. I'm excited. Dual rig of doom on the way. *SUBLIMINALLY TELLS YOU TO BUY MY BASS*

[AngryGoldfish]

Well kinda. I've wanted to build a more classic stoner doom sounding setup I.e; sleep, bongzillla, etc. combined with some more vintage done moderni.e; windhand, cough, etc. as well as downsizing since I'm not playing out right now and have some other purchases I wanted to make. So I bought the Matamp so I could sell my emperors to pay down some debt and get a couple things for the rig: a set of avedissian or BKP warpigs, a TB w/ led modded crybaby or snarling dogs black bawls, and a volt thrower from nick.

Which Emperor cabinets are you thinking of letting go of?

I've been a bad bad boy.......

and need your opinions!

It's the Matamp first, and then the Emperor! Which one do you like more?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR_4TlAHyOA[/youtube]

I preferred the first one myself, but the cleans on the second were a little more... I dunno... bouncy. The first one had a burly midrange that I really liked with distortion, while the second one, the Emperor, was a little more mushy and sizzly. I'm not sure if that's an accurate description, so I hope you know what I mean.

Also, Peavey butcher locally for 200, has Celestion g12k85's. Hit it?

They're good speakers. They're discontinued now and were replaced by the slightly higher powered G12K100's. They're essentially the same speaker, and sound similar, but the 85 watt naturally has a little more give and isn't quite as modern as the K100. Both really good speakers for any kind of heavy metal. They're a bit stiff and sterile for blues or other genres, but they excel at low-end reproduction and keep everything clear, punchy, and tight. I've not actually tried an 85 watt speaker in a long, long time, though, so it might be different than I remember. They're also excellent speakers to pair with more organic sounding ones, or models with more bite since they're a dry speaker.

At least there was the chance to see Neurosis. They don't seem to play away from Cali too often now, at least not within driving distance of where I live. They're one of the groups that's still on my bucket list. I'm probably halfway through it by now though.

I missed out on seeing Neurosis over three years ago when they toured with Kylesa or someone like that. I knew of their music back then, but I didn't have any records and wasn't the massive fan I am now. I am desperate to see them come back but apparently they only tour places like Ireland every few years.

[AngryGoldfish]

Well kinda. I've wanted to build a more classic stoner doom sounding setup I.e; sleep, bongzillla, etc. combined with some more vintage done moderni.e; windhand, cough, etc. as well as downsizing since I'm not playing out right now and have some other purchases I wanted to make. So I bought the Matamp so I could sell my emperors to pay down some debt and get a couple things for the rig: a set of avedissian or BKP warpigs, a TB w/ led modded crybaby or snarling dogs black bawls, and a volt thrower from nick.

You bought a Matamp? I thought you were buying an Orange?

anyway, this:

more classic stoner doom sounding setup I.e; sleep, bongzillla, etc. combined with some more vintage done moderni.e; windhand, cough, etc.

reads very this:


"A slight hint of Sleep with a sprinkling of Bongzilla and a robust aftertaste of Cough."


Love ya buddy hope yer amp is rad.

AASS:

Hit it. You can resell it for a profit if it's not your bag, but it will be your bag.


GADZAN:

Easily breakable rule of thumb: Never pay more than 500 for a cab. Any cab.

And I agree. I wouldn't pay more than €500 for a cabinet unless I absolutely had to. Any more than that and I just can't justify it. I know it's a crucial part of the sound, and I know companies need to make a living, but I don't think it's a reasonable price. Companies like Diezel with their €1000 cabinets, it baffles (no pun intended) my mind when someone can pick up a Zilla Cab for almost half that price with the same specs and dimensions and built in the UK.

speaking of me and john
and john bein right there
check out our new fuggin clubhouse

and its my basement
so noone can fuck with us now
well except my girlfriend
hmmm ill stop there

It's

It's ..... Beautiful!

Well done gents.

Your guitar reminds me of Josh Homme's super cool guitar from Echopark:

(the one on the right)

I need some tube help.

I've had the Jet City 50w head now for a few weeks and really liking it…but i would like to refine the sound a bit. I've heard another one which has upgraded tubes and it sounds really nice.

does anyone have any suggestions for preamp valves and positions? For power tubes i'm going with a pair of JJ 6L6GC's

I heard Groove Tubes and JJ's work nicely in the preamp. To be honest, though, tubes are so variable that you may actually find you prefer the stock tubes. Of course, there's no harm in trying new ones, but those that say there is huge difference between stock and JJ's are either hearing things the rest of us cannot or they're over-exaggerating what they are hearing. Although I modified my Jet City to death, I never changed the tubes. I never needed to. They were fine.

[ryan summit]

dudes that new sg i got sounds so good

for the guys that dont get out the doom room
go here and link to your music
http://ilovefuzz.com/viewtopic.php?f=15 ... 76#p745276
chud fusk is talkin bout another all ILF show
i know a bunch of yous got new stuff

[Ancient Astronaught]

Which Emperor cabinets are you thinking of letting go of?

I preferred the first one myself, but the cleans on the second were a little more... I dunno... bouncy. The first one had a burly midrange that I really liked with distortion, while the second one, the Emperor, was a little more mushy and sizzly. I'm not sure if that's an accurate description, so I hope you know what I mean.

The 4x12 and 2x15. I'm gonna rock the half stack for a while until I can find a black Matamp 2x15 or a black orange 4x12 I can convert into one.

I agree whole heatedly with you assessment. The Matamp is thicker and fuller while being scooped in the right place. I broke out the seven string last night and it sounded even better. The Emperor would cut through a dense mix better but requires the 2x15 to get the lows the Matamp does on its own, plus the Matamp is noticeably louder.

[John]

Anyone have recommendations on inexpensive Marshall-type guitar cabs to keep an eye out for? Either 4x12 or 4x10 I guess.

[HeavyXIII]

I need some tube help.

I've had the Jet City 50w head now for a few weeks and really liking it…but i would like to refine the sound a bit. I've heard another one which has upgraded tubes and it sounds really nice.

does anyone have any suggestions for preamp valves and positions? For power tubes i'm going with a pair of JJ 6L6GC's

I heard Groove Tubes and JJ's work nicely in the preamp. To be honest, though, tubes are so variable that you may actually find you prefer the stock tubes. Of course, there's no harm in trying new ones, but those that say there is huge difference between stock and JJ's are either hearing things the rest of us cannot or they're over-exaggerating what they are hearing. Although I modified my Jet City to death, I never changed the tubes. I never needed to. They were fine.

I would shy away from Groove Tubes personally. As I understand it, they're essentially rebranded tubes made in the same factories and to the same specs as the other name brands, but they cost more. It was supposedly to offset the cost of "testing" and getting the best tubes. You can order tested tubes of the name brands for less anyway. I just thought it was a waste.

If you do anything with the preamp, make sure you get several different types of tubes, that way you have maximum variability. Every tube has a slightly different character and will respond differently to every position. That said, I've both read and enjoyed the effects of using 12at7's in the last preamp stage (that phase inverter). I'm pretty sure made my amp a hair louder with better dynamics and touch sensitivity.

Anyone have recommendations on inexpensive Marshall-type guitar cabs to keep an eye out for? Either 4x12 or 4x10 I guess.

I like the Lee Jackson era Ampeg 412 I picked up a while ago. They're all over Guitar Center for $200 or less. I got mine for around $300 on CL, but the guy also changed the stock speakers for V30s. The cab itself is pretty solid.

[whiskey_face]

Anyone have recommendations on inexpensive Marshall-type guitar cabs to keep an eye out for? Either 4x12 or 4x10 I guess.

late 80s to early 90s randalls
same era crates

sometimes you get lucky and get UK v30s

[Timm Grimm]

I got nothing. I haven't met a cheap 410 I've gelled with yet. Good luck with the search.

Anyone have recommendations on inexpensive Marshall-type guitar cabs to keep an eye out for? Either 4x12 or 4x10 I guess.

[AxAxSxS]

AG, thanks for the reference to the g12K100's. I have a quad of those and am very familiar with the sound. I still have not heard back from duder but I'll keep after em and will keep an eye out for a seller who actually returns messages.

I would watch out on the 80's crates, the one I had was full sized, fiber board construction though, did not hold up to abuse. It developed a nasty buzz and I fixed it up a few times but over time the wood was just coming apart to much.

[John]

Ugh I would never, never, NERVER, NEVANEV, NOVENVLAD, ever buy a Crate cabinet. RRRRRR

[dazedbyday]

Skip,

I just listened to your clip and to throw my opinion in the ring: I liked the cleans on the second better (emperor?) but the distortion on the first better. The distortion on the first had a much more burly feeling to it that sounded thicker while the second was much more narrow and cutting. Not bad but less thick.

And for the cheap cabs. The dude from rosetta posted on his blog that he really likes crate cabs, I forget from when though. He changed the grill and put a sunn badge on it so that he can laugh as people compliment his sunn when underneath it is a crate. For bass cabs I have a gallien kruger 2x10 goldline from a few years ago. The speakers in it are not so hot but the sturdiness of the cab is solid and the dimension are right in a sweetspot that if I shopped around for the right speakers it would be an awesome 2x10. I haven't switched them out because I haven't played bass in a while but I have hung onto the cab just in case. If you can find one it should be just around a 100 bucks.

Here is the rosetta post: http://atomiumamps.tumblr.com/post/4486 ... -for-crate