The "How many different PLL clones can we get!" Thread

[intothegroove]

Heavy PLL enclosure drilling.

Aluminum swarf everywhere

serious production going on!!!

[digi2t]

OK... I'm gonna poke up the fires here a bit.

I've been working on and off on the arpeggiator angle between other projects, and with a good break through this week, I can say that I'm 90% there. I've done some tests, and right now I'm waiting for a PCB to arrive.

It will be a selectable 10 step sequencer (1 to 10 steps), with each step having the capacity to be switched in or out of the sequence. Example; one will have the capacity to select, say 8 steps, but skip however many steps they wish within those 8 steps. Each steps tone will be adjustable as well. This should give enough capability to create some pretty creative arpeggio effects. With each step being tunable, it should resemble the pseudo-sample and hold effect that the Infinitphase can pull off in Step mode.

Depending on the power requirements, it should be a plug and play unit to the PLL, which means that existing PLL's will require some very minor mods. If for some reason the PLL cannot provide the power to run the arpeggiator, then a separate power source (Boss 9vdc) will be required. Either way, the existing PLL circuitry will require some additional wiring. It will only be a difference of +/- two wires at the end of the day. Hopefully, the PnP angle will work fine, which from what I've deduced from the original PLL, might be what John Schumann had in mind.

What's kind of neat about the arpeggiator is that the PLL may now be used as a stand alone instrument as well. Like the Drone function, one can blend the repeating arpeggios with the guitar signal, or simply play them on their own.

More news in a couple of weeks.

[intothegroove]

Dino buddy, YES!!!!!!

[goroth]

holy cow Dino!

[phantasmagorovich]

Awesomeness

[univalve]

Cool, will be Down for fuzz and pll!

[insubordination]

yah. the KO Amps one is really nice too. i guess Insubordination and him worked on it together? not really sure.

Not me! I wouldn't know the first thing about this stuff. Wish I did. I facilitated Dino getting his hands on a Lion, but that's the extent of my involvement in the Schumann saga.

[intothegroove]

OK... I'm gonna poke up the fires here a bit.

I've been working on and off on the arpeggiator angle between other projects, and with a good break through this week, I can say that I'm 90% there. I've done some tests, and right now I'm waiting for a PCB to arrive.

It will be a selectable 10 step sequencer (1 to 10 steps), with each step having the capacity to be switched in or out of the sequence. Example; one will have the capacity to select, say 8 steps, but skip however many steps they wish within those 8 steps. Each steps tone will be adjustable as well. This should give enough capability to create some pretty creative arpeggio effects. With each step being tunable, it should resemble the pseudo-sample and hold effect that the Infinitphase can pull off in Step mode.

Depending on the power requirements, it should be a plug and play unit to the PLL, which means that existing PLL's will require some very minor mods. If for some reason the PLL cannot provide the power to run the arpeggiator, then a separate power source (Boss 9vdc) will be required. Either way, the existing PLL circuitry will require some additional wiring. It will only be a difference of +/- two wires at the end of the day. Hopefully, the PnP angle will work fine, which from what I've deduced from the original PLL, might be what John Schumann had in mind.

What's kind of neat about the arpeggiator is that the PLL may now be used as a stand alone instrument as well. Like the Drone function, one can blend the repeating arpeggios with the guitar signal, or simply play them on their own.

More news in a couple of weeks.

now that is impressive, an arp on the PLL will really bring the batshit full circle. can't wait to hear how it sounds and functions once you've got the kinks ironed out Dino! You're gonna have alot of OG PLL owners knocking at your door soon enough!





for those that still give a shit, 5KVNQW0RK5 will have a website launching in the next 2-3 weeks where one could finally order our first commercial batch of Exterminators & Architeuthis fuzz pedals along with info pertaining to both the Valkyrie and PLLTERGEIST PLL's which will be released early next year.

I'm down!

[Uncle Grandfather]

Cool thread. I've got a schumann pll w/drone, the infanem analogue harmony synth, and snazzy fx mini-ark. Big Pll fan, nice to see some interesting models being worked out.

[digi2t]

OK... the update is here.

The Schumann PLL Arpeggiator( ).

In case you forgot, the original units had a 5 pin MIDI jack installed on them, labelled "Arpeggiator".



There was nothing connected to these jacks inside the units, yet, it really intrigued me. It may have been in the works, with the option to add it later, or not, who knows. I decided it was worth investigating.

I don't know if it's what Mr. Schumann had envisioned, but here's my bend on it. Armed with a dangerous amount of information, I concocted this little beasty;





Nothing special. Just a 10 step sequencer that uses a 555 timer, and a 4017 for the sequencer. This PCB also has a slot for a 4046, which I'm not using, since I'm sending the VCO signal from the 4017 to the PLL's 4046. Actually, you can even use one of those Nightfire LED chaser kits to build around. It's a bit more work, between a vero and this board, but definitely do-able.

The only thing that's not up to snuff right now, is the sequence reset angle. I realized that I didn't have the right momentary switch (set of poles short), so I can't have the sequence reset itself to 1 when on standby. The switch is ordered though, and I'll be adding a toggle selector as well for "Reset" or "Free run" capability.

My biggest beef is the board, and a new board should be designed for this application. One with better (more) spacing, and minus the 4046 chip slot. Apart that, the basic idea of the board is cool.

Anywho, this is my take, and I'm stickin' to it. It's a fun little add-on, and being powered by the PLL, it's Plug 'n Play. Lots of interactivity available with the Lag, Response, and Loop Track pots. The Multiply and Divide selectors also play a role in defining the sound, so lots of knob twiddling options available.

Of course, the customary video...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm4EBMC3j3o[/youtube]

[skullservant]

That is incredibly awesome

[intothegroove]

WOW I am totally blown away! excellent work! This is incredible!

[Dirk]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07i5Z5QlrGg[/youtube]
New crazy PLL noise like a Theremin at times

[Tristan]

Wow, very cool vid, especially the first and the last sound really amazed me.
The first sound doesn't really just sound like a theremin but it's actually more like two of them at the same time running in different intervals / octaves!

[npfrs]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07i5Z5QlrGg[/youtube]
New crazy PLL noise like a Theremin at times

I've got to stop watching Dimehead videos.... oi, WANT!