behndy wrote:lol. i'mmmmmm betting it's gonna be $20 a MODEL. not for the whole Factor that you're grabbing from.
Ok i just downloaded the app for the H9 and it is 19.99 for each SERIES! So for $20 you can get all the space algorithms or all the mods ect. I think I may have to pick one up. If I dig it I may sell my time factor and buy another H9. It still sucks that after buying a $500 pedal you need to spend another $80 to get all the algorithms but for what it will be able to do it seems worth it IMO. Also I can spend that $80 over a few weeks so that will make it a little easier. Would have been cool if they had taken the idea from strymon and their möbius and did the whole moving the effect in your chain thing.
Haha.... It's $20 per algorithm. It will cost $160 for all the Pitchfactor algorithms and another $200 for all the Space algorithms (minus the ones it comes with). Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
behndy wrote:lol. i'mmmmmm betting it's gonna be $20 a MODEL. not for the whole Factor that you're grabbing from.
Ok i just downloaded the app for the H9 and it is 19.99 for each SERIES! So for $20 you can get all the space algorithms or all the mods ect. I think I may have to pick one up. If I dig it I may sell my time factor and buy another H9. It still sucks that after buying a $500 pedal you need to spend another $80 to get all the algorithms but for what it will be able to do it seems worth it IMO. Also I can spend that $80 over a few weeks so that will make it a little easier. Would have been cool if they had taken the idea from strymon and their möbius and did the whole moving the effect in your chain thing.
Haha.... It's $20 per algorithm. It will cost $160 for all the Pitchfactor algorithms and another $200 for all the Space algorithms (minus the ones it comes with). Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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If you think about it though, that's not a bad deal. Especially with having such a small footprint for this sucker.
I could totally see myself getting one of these. It's awesome that you can pick and choose the algorithms! I've owned a Modfactor and Pitchfactor and loved them, but there was shit on both those guys I would never use. The fucking synth shit on the Pitchfactor sucks donkey balls IMO. But most of the other setting are fucking tits!
I'm excited! I want one bad as fuck. SOOOOOOOOOOOOO going to start saving/plotting.
"I do not have the ability to think rationally 90% of the time and I also change my mind at the drop of a hat".
elevenstrings wrote:Haha.... It's $20 per algorithm. It will cost $160 for all the Pitchfactor algorithms and another $200 for all the Space algorithms (minus the ones it comes with). Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Eventide =
Well frak. That's much less appealing.
D.o.S. wrote:Broadly speaking, if we at ILF are dropping 300 bucks on a pedal it probably sounds like an SNES holocaust.
friendship wrote:death to false bleep-blop
UglyCasanova wrote:brb gonna slap my dick on my stomp boxes
Let's take this a step further though and talk used/sale prices
Timefactor used average price: 250 (Prymaxe price 15% off new)-339.15 Modfactor used average price: 250 (Prymaxe price 15% off new)-339.15 Pitchfactor used average price: 350 (Prymaxe price 15% off new)-424.15 Space used average price: 390 (Prymaxe price 15% off new)-424.15
Used pedal price total: $1240 Prymaxe Vintage 15% off new total price: $1526.60
SO in conclusion-
H9 all algorithms-$1339
Benefits as I see it-small footprint, no shipping for extra pedals, highly interactive interface via iPad or iPhone, pick and choose which algorithms you want, try algorithms before you commit to purchase, H9 will have more and extra algorithms added potentially just for this system, no wait time for new sounds (download on the spot and use instantly), only one expression pedal needed.
Negatives: Cannot stack effects current (but for all we know Eventide will fix this eventually, this is a HUGE negative though), initial price
All pedal purchase used together- $1240 (potentially less or more depending on who is selling it and how desperate or greedy the sell)
Benefits as I see it- Stack effects for days, turning physical knobs feels better because of nostalgia, lower cost
Negaitves: HUGE footprint (like PT2 almost), knobs were out on Eventides and so do jacks, need for multiple expression pedals or a device that can manipulate multiple expression jacks at once, wait time on shipping
So the difference potentially in price is 99 dollars.
For a hundred more dollars, I believe you get more for you dollar and something with greater potential.
Sorry for the long winded post. I wanted to break it down for myself as well as everyone else. Just so we can have something realistic and comparable.
"I do not have the ability to think rationally 90% of the time and I also change my mind at the drop of a hat".
This exactly. H9 can only be considered a choice when you plan on using few algorithms that are scattered around a number of factor pedals. Still, you'll probably get more bang for your buck buying different pedals from other companies. In turn, I can't think of a situation that could justify spending so much money on such a lousy and expensive product.
That's sad, cause Eventide Space is AWESOME. And other Factors probably are but I don't have much interest in them.
Having owned a space and pitchfactor I know which algorithms work for me and which didn't. I think that's a bit of an advantage. If you have a local guitar shop where you could try the stand alone pedals and see which settings you like the most you could save yourself some money. The other thing that I haven't seen talked about too much on here that kills it for me is the same problem I had with the mobius (other than not liking a majority of the mods): One effect at a time.
There's a snake in my boots. Someone poisoned the waterhole!
