Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

[nightterrors]

Thanks! It's too much fun. There's not really anything I wanna get rid of and I still want more stuff
I have 3 dirt/ODs but they all sound so great and different. I guess I'll have to make a bigger board

I know the feeling man! I have 3 fuzz's and an OD on the board right now. I want a different OD though, and a few other things. It never ends

[AngryGoldfish]

No. You really only see very few "boutique" delays that are analog though because they're more complicated to design than the typical PT2399 delay.

If you want an analog delay you're mainly going to have to go with older BOSS, Ibanez/Maxon, or EHX.

600ms would be pretty dang long for an analog delay.

I thought the Ekko 616 and Catalinbread delays were analog. They're both boutique. There is also the Toneczar, *ahem* JHS *ahem, Diamond, DMB, etc.

It's really sweet. I'm actually selling it though cause it's gonna be replaced by the ILFDD when it comes out.
The modulation on it sounds really good and there's a lot of flexibility. Like most analog delays though I wish it had a longer max delay time. But all the features it has on it are great for the price point. sucker is tiny as fuck too

I don't know why more digital delays don't have an extended delay range. It really limits things. And it's not like trying to squeeze 800ms or more out of an analog delay, which is renowned for being extremely hard, so why don't more designers do it?

[Officer Bukowski]

I said very few, not none. The 616 is analog but I don't think Catalinbread makes an analog delay. I could be wrong

I like to pretend that JHS doesn't exist so I have no idea what they're doing. They continue to get douchier after the Hyperion thing btw, seemingly with each "release"

[AngryGoldfish]

I said very few, not none. The 616 is analog but I don't think Catalinbread makes an analog delay. I could be wrong

I like to pretend that JHS doesn't exist so I have no idea what they're doing. They continue to get douchier after the Hyperion thing btw, seemingly with each "release"

Isn't the Montavillion an analog delay? I always thought it was their sonic take on the popular Carbon Copy and Ekko 616 delays. I could be wrong there.

[Officer Bukowski]

It's another PT2399 delay

It could be their "sonic take" on it but it's not based on the same components

[AngryGoldfish]

I see.

Before I knew anything about circuitry, I thought the Pigtronix Echolution was analog—I thought it was the most complex analog pedal ever made. Pigtronix made me think that by their advertising, but it's completely digital apart from the signal path which stays analog. I sometimes wonder whether analog technology has anywhere to go as far as features, whether someone can develop a digitally controlled chip to manipulate the features of an analog circuit path such as what the new Deluxe Memory Man with Tap-Tempo can do, but with more advanced features.

[theshoegazer]

Trying to find a nice delay but for now this gets the job done.

[kbit]

FWIW, the 616 is the only analog delay I've owned but it sounds really really nice.
It definitely needs to be run with the buffer on, though. Dry signal sounds like shit when the pedal is engaged without it.

[WeHuntKings]

Trying to find a nice delay but for now this gets the job done.

I like your style.

[goroth]

I see.

Before I knew anything about circuitry, I thought the Pigtronix Echolution was analog—I thought it was the most complex analog pedal ever made. Pigtronix made me think that by their advertising, but it's completely digital apart from the signal path which stays analog. I sometimes wonder whether analog technology has anywhere to go as far as features, whether someone can develop a digitally controlled chip to manipulate the features of an analog circuit path such as what the new Deluxe Memory Man with Tap-Tempo can do, but with more advanced features.

The Subdecay dlx pedals are a good example of digital control over analogue circuits.

[Officer Bukowski]

I see.

Before I knew anything about circuitry, I thought the Pigtronix Echolution was analog—I thought it was the most complex analog pedal ever made. Pigtronix made me think that by their advertising, but it's completely digital apart from the signal path which stays analog. I sometimes wonder whether analog technology has anywhere to go as far as features, whether someone can develop a digitally controlled chip to manipulate the features of an analog circuit path such as what the new Deluxe Memory Man with Tap-Tempo can do, but with more advanced features.

One thing to understand about an analog delay chip is that it doesn't "sample" the incoming signal like a digital delay does. It is literally delaying your signal by running it through hundreds of thousands of transistors contained in the chip. It's more like controlled latency than sampling.

The signal is then fed back into the chip for repeats.

So a looper is a sampler. An analog chip isn't going to do anything like that.

[AngryGoldfish]

lol, also thought the pigtronix was analog. never understood how the fuck they managed the looper.

Exactly. They definitely made some think it was an all-analog pedal. Those with the knowledge would dismiss it as a notion and accept it as digital, but I imagine many of Pigtronix customers aren't tech-savvy.

The Subdecay dlx pedals are a good example of digital control over analogue circuits.

I have a Quasar DLX and it's awesome. I want the Starlight DLX and the Prometheus DLX and whatever else Subdecay come up with that has a 'DLX' at the end of it.

One thing to understand about an analog delay chip is that it doesn't "sample" the incoming signal like a digital delay does. It is literally delaying your signal by running it through hundreds of thousands of transistors contained in the chip. It's more like controlled latency than sampling.

The signal is then fed back into the chip for repeats.

So a looper is a sampler. An analog chip isn't going to do anything like that.

I never thought of it that way. It makes sense. So, in theory, if technology was advanced enough to not only increase the amount of micro-transistors and thus increase the latency but also develop highly complex rhythms like that in the Pigtronix Echolution and Catalinbread Echorec. I don't see how reverse delay would function without the sampling of digital technology, but in theory you should be able to create an analog SuperDelay or TimeLine, just without features such as reverse, looping. With that said, isn't the Zvex Lo-Fi Loop Junky an analog pedal?

[zRobertez]

The Subdecay dlx pedals are a good example of digital control over analogue circuits.

I have a Quasar DLX and it's awesome. I want the Starlight DLX and the Prometheus DLX and whatever else Subdecay come up with that has a 'DLX' at the end of it.

Quasar is so good

[Casavettes]

so i took the fnord and the tremolessence off my main board.
i want to start another smaller board, and maybe have it at waist side so i can manipulate everything via my hands.
trying to decide one (maybe 2?) to add to the other board, any suggestions?

[Officer Bukowski]

lol, also thought the pigtronix was analog. never understood how the fuck they managed the looper.

Exactly. They definitely made some think it was an all-analog pedal. Those with the knowledge would dismiss it as a notion and accept it as digital, but I imagine many of Pigtronix customers aren't tech-savvy.

The Subdecay dlx pedals are a good example of digital control over analogue circuits.

I have a Quasar DLX and it's awesome. I want the Starlight DLX and the Prometheus DLX and whatever else Subdecay come up with that has a 'DLX' at the end of it.

One thing to understand about an analog delay chip is that it doesn't "sample" the incoming signal like a digital delay does. It is literally delaying your signal by running it through hundreds of thousands of transistors contained in the chip. It's more like controlled latency than sampling.

The signal is then fed back into the chip for repeats.
You can use multiple BBDs to get more delay time rather that one mega chip. Ibanez/Maxon probly do this more than anyone. Check out some Maxon analog delays they have some long delay times with rhythmic options

I have a Maxon AD-9 Pro and it freaking rules. Probly not enough delay time for you but they have the AD-999 etc
So a looper is a sampler. An analog chip isn't going to do anything like that.

I never thought of it that way. It makes sense. So, in theory, if technology was advanced enough to not only increase the amount of micro-transistors and thus increase the latency but also develop highly complex rhythms like that in the Pigtronix Echolution and Catalinbread Echorec. I don't see how reverse delay would function without the sampling of digital technology, but in theory you should be able to create an analog SuperDelay or TimeLine, just without features such as reverse, looping. With that said, isn't the Zvex Lo-Fi Loop Junky an analog pedal?