The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[Iommic Pope]

Ok scratch that I just sussed it. Reasonably priced too...hmmm. That has piqued my gas. I wonder if I should email them about specs or just live in ignorance so I'm not walking around with a raging hard on for one all day? Has anyone played one of those firewilds?

[AxAxSxS]

Glad you guys like it, like I said, it started out as a $50 Pawn shop starcaster. I decided to tear into it when I was stuck on the couch for a few months due to knee surgerys. Finish was a lucky accident. I used a heat gun to remove the tacky looking purple and burned a few spots, liked it and ran with it. Then lots of clear, wetsanding and buffing, I like it now Enough to put some lace golds and a 57 in the bridge.



I should really get a camera.

[misterstomach]

by the way, i'm 35. old enough to know better, but whatever.

[Iommic Pope]

Glad you guys like it, like I said, it started out as a $50 Pawn shop starcaster. I decided to tear into it when I was stuck on the couch for a few months due to knee surgerys. Finish was a lucky accident. I used a heat gun to remove the tacky looking purple and burned a few spots, liked it and ran with it. Then lots of clear, wetsanding and buffing, I like it now Enough to put some lace golds and a 57 in the bridge.



I should really get a camera.

Dude, that reminds me so much of my project strat its uncanny. I painted mine silver, then when I went to put the clear coat on, the silver melted straight off, so I sanded it back real rough and stained it black, now it looks like crazy industrial blackened steel or something. You've completely inspired me to make it live again, its been sitting in a box in my garage for years, in pieces.

Young dudes, old dudes, we all get ass problems from time to time.
Circle of life.

[Ancient Astronaught]

Gah..... age.... ugh I'm 30 and had my fair share of gastro problems since I was fairly young. It ain't no fun....

. What do you folks think?

your killin me
thats what i think
one of those senseis
would be so nice
i cant even find any agile valkyries
i think im gonna go faded brown
on the g400
i dont know
im fuckin bummed out
thats all im sure of
why cant everything be in blackburst
you know what it is
ancient astro and skullservent
and that sick fuckin woodgrain jag
gloss black just dont look as good to me no more
thanks guys
ilf and all your cool shit
every post should have mandatory buy it now button
then maybe yall wouldnt show off so much

Your welcome.

I know it doesn't really help the situation unless you have a ton of money, but I'm of the opinion that simply swapping out the pickups and hardware on a cheap guitar doesn't necessarily produce a guitar of similar ilk to on that comes stock with those accompaniments. In other words, the fret work, the woods they use, the wiring, the finish quality, these are crucial parts of a guitar and can't always be improved upon. So you can swap everything out, even the neck on a bolt-on guitar, but you're still left with a cheap hunk of wood for the body. I know Skip is a master at this and I know loads of others who happily do it, but I think there is some truth to what I'm saying.

There is definitely some validity to your claim Dan. But what gets skimped out on or bypassed by going that route is usually aesthetic qualities. Your correct though that biggest thing to look for when building a parts guitar is a decent body, having that as a solid foundation allows you to build a guitar that can rival guitars costing 5-10 times as much. My white telemaster has a Warmoth mahogany body, and the stained one I believe is oregon alder. One thing though, fret work / wiring / and finish quality all can be improved upon yourself if you know what your doing. I usually pass off fretwork to an actual luthier not because I don't trust myself, its that I don't have the tools and experience. But I have numerous times changed every bit of wiring in a guitar as well as shielding it, and I've also refinished or completely buffed / wet sanded / polished guitars to the point where they look better then brand new.

The most recent eye opening experience for me is when i traded in my Orange AD200B to a local shop, I had the ability to get either a USA P-Bass that was stock or a Modified MIM P-Bass from the same era. The USA was 3 times the price of the MIM, but side by side the MIM played better, felt better, resonated better, sounded better (it does have SD QP's in it...) and in general felt like a sturdier instrument. I was blown away, I never would have thought that a MIM would outmatch a USA but it did, and I still have that bass now! And with the money I saved I got my MIM tele Custom.

[ryan summit]

uploaded a bunch of videos
from hangrr 18 on saturday
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... f8eKNGMSbO
you shoulda been there
motherfuckingmaggotbrain

[nightterrors]

the band I'm in are getting a jam space, I've never had a jam space before. Stoked.

Do any of you guys have a jam space? I'm quite excited about it!

[rustywire]

Do want.

[t-rey]

I'm 39. Old enough to know better.

Here's what I'm working with. Will add a Volto power supply when available and call it good.

I start looking at those Hagstroms every time I see your rig. Pretty much perfect.

See the Proselyte tonight along with two of my friend's bands and Kowloon Walled City tomorrow night. Fucking rad. On top of that the TC Flashback x4 should be shipping out to me tomorrow. Very pumped on that. Anyone rocking one of these in here?

Super jelly about KWC tonight. I do get to see Lynyrd Skynyrd on Thursday and go party like white trash in Myrtle on Saturday, so at least I have that going for me.

[Grrface]

Alright, you dudes seem like the right guys to ask about this.

I saw KWC last night, it was the first time I had heard of them, and they were awesome. What genre are they considered to fall under? Any recommendations for other bands like them? I tend to lurk in these doom threads, and I always like the videos that get posted and stuff. Lead me, dudes.

[emptyparadigm]

the band I'm in are getting a jam space, I've never had a jam space before. Stoked.

Do any of you guys have a jam space? I'm quite excited about it!

How anyone practices without a dedicated practice space where they can crank up their rigs is totally beyond me. Congrats on the room!

[nightterrors]

Thanks! Yeah, For sure man.

The jam we last week was the deciding factor, my buddies garage was rumbling.
I've never had the 2 head 2 cab set up before last week, and we got another guitar-man in the band now, so it was time to move so we can crank it' without pissing the neighbours off.

[Harry_Manback]

the band I'm in are getting a jam space, I've never had a jam space before. Stoked.

Do any of you guys have a jam space? I'm quite excited about it!

My drummer owns a house. A shitty house, but none the less, we're premanently setup in his basement.

I start looking at those Hagstroms every time I see your rig. Pretty much perfect.

Thanks man. I'm really happy with this setup. A new amp would be nice if the right deal pops up, but whatevs. This is more than adequate for our monthly drunken bro downs.

[AngryGoldfish]

My doombringer.

duo.jpg

I dig this a lot. I love single pickup guitars, but I fear I'd feel restricted and eventually become a little bored. Has this ever happened to you?

I know it doesn't really help the situation unless you have a ton of money, but I'm of the opinion that simply swapping out the pickups and hardware on a cheap guitar doesn't necessarily produce a guitar of similar ilk to on that comes stock with those accompaniments. In other words, the fret work, the woods they use, the wiring, the finish quality, these are crucial parts of a guitar and can't always be improved upon. So you can swap everything out, even the neck on a bolt-on guitar, but you're still left with a cheap hunk of wood for the body. I know Skip is a master at this and I know loads of others who happily do it, but I think there is some truth to what I'm saying.

I gotta disagree to a certain extent. Especially when It comes to fender/squier. I can get a fret job done in about an hour that will fix any rough ends or high or low frets, I habitually rewire and shield every guitar I get if it was not done at the factory, woods I believe are less important than electronics. One of my best playing strats started out as a purple starcaster. Now I actually like it better than my USA strat plus and it looks like this-



And speaking of modding cheap guitars, my Kramer now has new pups in it. I need to do some height adjustment and still want a nicer bridge, but it's sounding really good now.

It does depend on the guitar. Sometimes a Chinese made instrument will happen to have a nice chunk of Basswood and sound as good as the Japanese counterparts, but it's a long shot. I just don't think it's a good idea to buy in a bunch of cheap guitars from an online sale and modify them with expensive hardware, because ultimately you're putting a high spec Audi engine into a $2000 Hyundai. It'll run fine and sound good, but it's not always an ideal situation. If it was then no one would spend $500 on a slab of Mahogany for a $4000 guitar. They'd just import a load of cheap slabs off Basswood or Plywood and put Bareknuckles and Hipshot in it.

I will say though, there is a certain attraction for some people when they renovate a guitar, and I get that. I understand that some people have a knack for finding the right piece and understand what will work best with it.

I'm 39. Old enough to know better.

Here's what I'm working with. Will add a Volto power supply when available and call it good.

This is an awesome set-up.

Ok scratch that I just sussed it. Reasonably priced too...hmmm. That has piqued my gas. I wonder if I should email them about specs or just live in ignorance so I'm not walking around with a raging hard on for one all day? Has anyone played one of those firewilds?

Their prices are great, especially if you don't want any fancy finishes and use their own-brand pickups. That Firewild model is pretty expensive for a Korean-constructed guitar, but it's a neck-thru and has a lot of upgrades such as relic finish and EMG pickups. Although you'll still have to have the neck-thru, you can order a basic thin finish or just a plain wood and sealant, skip the fancy hardware and pickups, and pay around €1000.

Their English isn't the best, but it's good enough.

Black is the best colour for a guitar. It looks deep and especially cool on the Manta Ray. Even the shittiest things can look classy in black.

can't stand black strats - all the cheapest guitar packs for kids and stuff like that always include a black strat, makes me cringe.

I'm 23 and I've had worms, I guess that relates to ass-problems. I took some pills and shat those fuckers OUT

Believe it or not but I have two black Strats. I barely play them though. They're just not my cup of tea. I won't ever sell them as the MIM Strat is a relic and was handed down to me after my Uncle the original owner died in 2009. The other one is a really cheap Squier I modified to hell. It's not worth anything, really, and it was my first electric. Both guitars have sentimental value so I'll never sell them.

There is definitely some validity to your claim Dan. But what gets skimped out on or bypassed by going that route is usually aesthetic qualities. Your correct though that biggest thing to look for when building a parts guitar is a decent body, having that as a solid foundation allows you to build a guitar that can rival guitars costing 5-10 times as much. My white telemaster has a Warmoth mahogany body, and the stained one I believe is oregon alder. One thing though, fret work / wiring / and finish quality all can be improved upon yourself if you know what your doing. I usually pass off fretwork to an actual luthier not because I don't trust myself, its that I don't have the tools and experience. But I have numerous times changed every bit of wiring in a guitar as well as shielding it, and I've also refinished or completely buffed / wet sanded / polished guitars to the point where they look better then brand new.

The most recent eye opening experience for me is when i traded in my Orange AD200B to a local shop, I had the ability to get either a USA P-Bass that was stock or a Modified MIM P-Bass from the same era. The USA was 3 times the price of the MIM, but side by side the MIM played better, felt better, resonated better, sounded better (it does have SD QP's in it...) and in general felt like a sturdier instrument. I was blown away, I never would have thought that a MIM would outmatch a USA but it did, and I still have that bass now! And with the money I saved I got my MIM tele Custom.

I can't deny any of this. If you are patient and seek out the perfect platform you can indeed reap the rewards of your labour. But I fell into the trap and lie that so many other young people fall into: You can make any guitar worth five times its price by upgrading the hardware and electronics. This just isn't always true, and any professional builder would agree. Like you said, sometimes you come across a golden piece of timber, but you have to patient, and some people just don't have that in them. They want to be sure that what they're buying is the best it can possibly be.

the band I'm in are getting a jam space, I've never had a jam space before. Stoked.

Do any of you guys have a jam space? I'm quite excited about it!

Nice! I always had a jam space. My shed/garage was the jam space. We could play as loud as we wanted for as long as we wanted.

Alright, you dudes seem like the right guys to ask about this.

I saw KWC last night, it was the first time I had heard of them, and they were awesome. What genre are they considered to fall under? Any recommendations for other bands like them? I tend to lurk in these doom threads, and I always like the videos that get posted and stuff. Lead me, dudes.

Sludge? Their new album is kinda Post-Metal-ish though. It's weird. I love it.

[AxAxSxS]

The car anology is a good one. And value wise you are totally right. $200 pickups put in a $100 dollar guitar = a $100 guitar. So if you do mod stuff its a good idea to keep the origional parts and put it back to stock if you want to sell it. You can definately make it sound better while you have it though.