Do you do your own setups?
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
seems like both my electrics have a slight bow when i have them set up optimally, i dont know if thats correct or not.
this is whati suggest
get a capo put it on the first fret.
hold down the low e string on the 13th fret
take a look at the space between the low e string and the top of the 6th fret
optimally for "rock music" you want it to be 1/100th of a inch from top of fret to low e string
so if its touching the fret, loosen your truss rod (counterclokwise) if its too high off the fretboard then tighten your trussrod
turn the trussrod in little increments, i do it in 1/8s of a turn, most books etc say 1/4s i think, but i like 1/8s
if you try to turn the trussrod and it doesnt budge, dont fuck with it, yo umight need a repair, but you probably knew that
this is whati suggest
get a capo put it on the first fret.
hold down the low e string on the 13th fret
take a look at the space between the low e string and the top of the 6th fret
optimally for "rock music" you want it to be 1/100th of a inch from top of fret to low e string
so if its touching the fret, loosen your truss rod (counterclokwise) if its too high off the fretboard then tighten your trussrod
turn the trussrod in little increments, i do it in 1/8s of a turn, most books etc say 1/4s i think, but i like 1/8s
if you try to turn the trussrod and it doesnt budge, dont fuck with it, yo umight need a repair, but you probably knew that
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
nut height and buzz only comes into play on open strings - if you are buzzing while fretted, it's something else (frets)
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
traditionally, you need a slight bow out to avoid fretting out...various sources recommend anything from a few hundredths of an inch worth of space to the width of a dime between the bass string and the fretboard at the 7th/9th fret. you just have to mess with it in small installments in combination with bridge adjustments to get your optimum/the amount of fret-out you can stand. i tend to set my guitars up with rather stiffer action than is typical because i HATES the fret buzzessssssss.
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
As a reminder, turning the truss rod counterclockwise lowers the strings or raises them?
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
I do my own.
Lay my bass on its back and set dead flat using a 24” steel ruler then adjust my bridge so the buzz fretting the 3rd fret just goes away.
Yes I know “digging in” as the TBers like to say.
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Lay my bass on its back and set dead flat using a 24” steel ruler then adjust my bridge so the buzz fretting the 3rd fret just goes away.
Yes I know “digging in” as the TBers like to say.
I got volume knobs and a bazillion pedals so I don’t need to “dig in” to get dirt.
Play softly and always carry a loud ass amp.
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
The4455 wrote:As a reminder, turning the truss rod counterclockwise lowers the strings or raises them?
just like a screw, lefty loosy righty tighty
so counterclockwise loosens, or raises the strings
but, truss rod adjustments should not be thought of in the way of making your action better, or your guitar easier to play..at least this is what i read out of a legit old setups book (that i cant remember the name of)
u should really just adjust it to the appropriate height i described before with a capo on 1st fret, hold down 13th, measure at 6th fret. but differnt people have different ideas on how much relief you should have there, i like just a tiny bit
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
Just "set up" my jag, put flat wounds omit, which I just love. Was able to get the action where I wanted with zero buzz whatsoever, so really proud/happy. Took me a total of like 2 days of adjusting though haha
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
pigmaker wrote:The4455 wrote:As a reminder, turning the truss rod counterclockwise lowers the strings or raises them?
just like a screw, lefty loosy righty tighty
so counterclockwise loosens, or raises the strings
but, truss rod adjustments should not be thought of in the way of making your action better, or your guitar easier to play..at least this is what i read out of a legit old setups book (that i cant remember the name of)
u should really just adjust it to the appropriate height i described before with a capo on 1st fret, hold down 13th, measure at 6th fret. but differnt people have different ideas on how much relief you should have there, i like just a tiny bit
Thanks, I hadn't thought of it as a standard thing, more of a per person type of deal. I learned on a Bass with extremely high action, which I've changed, but I don't mind playing a Bass with high action, it's like, oh just like my first bass.
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
I'll second what pigmaker had to say. I normally eyeball the neck, if it looks good I just adjust the bridge height or saddles to get the action where I want. If that creates buzz, I then mess with the truss rod or do a fret job as needed.
I'm in the school of people who want minimal relief. I like the action to be equal (perceptibly) throughout the length of the neck. This does require the fret height to also be near perfect though. you can check this without removing to much metal using magic marker and a 6" or longer fine whetstone. simply color the frets and then slide the whetstone along the neck. where the marker remains are low spots. I may be explaining this badly.
I'm in the school of people who want minimal relief. I like the action to be equal (perceptibly) throughout the length of the neck. This does require the fret height to also be near perfect though. you can check this without removing to much metal using magic marker and a 6" or longer fine whetstone. simply color the frets and then slide the whetstone along the neck. where the marker remains are low spots. I may be explaining this badly.
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
Psyre wrote:Just "set up" my jag, put flat wounds omit, which I just love. Was able to get the action where I wanted with zero buzz whatsoever, so really proud/happy. Took me a total of like 2 days of adjusting though haha
when i started doing them it took me way longer, now not so much
but i would always do a polish and stuff too, lemon oil on the freboard and gibson polish on the bodies, i dont really bother with that now
plus im not sure if lemon oil is good for old rosewood or ebony boards
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
AxAxSxS wrote:I'll second what pigmaker had to say. I normally eyeball the neck, if it looks good I just adjust the bridge height or saddles to get the action where I want. If that creates buzz, I then mess with the truss rod or do a fret job as needed.
I'm in the school of people who want minimal relief. I like the action to be equal (perceptibly) throughout the length of the neck. This does require the fret height to also be near perfect though. you can check this without removing to much metal using magic marker and a 6" or longer fine whetstone. simply color the frets and then slide the whetstone along the neck. where the marker remains are low spots. I may be explaining this badly.
agree totally...
the bridge is where you are supposed to adjust your action...and the nut i guess but i never have touched the nut.
totally agree with the action being equal all over the neck and also from low to high strings (which can sometimes be difficult)
i dont really understand your magic marker thing, but the only one i have is a permanent sharpie anyway. but i will definitely try this once i get an eraseable marker because i have a new (old) guitar and want to know how the frets are...
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
There's a pretty good explanation here- http://www.skguitar.com/SKGS/sk/fretcrowning.htm Does it a little different than me but same ideas. Permanent is fine if you plan on polishing the frets, or have some rubbing alcohol around.
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
I can just about everything but fretwork, so I put no. I usually pay for someone who's work I like to do everything for about $80 then I ever want anything different I could probably do fine from there. There's been lots of times I was unhappy with setups but I found a guy who does it pretty damn close to what I like.
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
so if a setup isn't exactly to your liking, would you say you just "deal with it" ?
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Re: Do you do your own setups?
I make adjustments! I get it to where it plays nice enough for me, I'm willing to settle for less than perfect but I don't want to slave over getting it flawless.
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