running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x12?

General Gear Discussion - effects, synths, etc.

Moderator: Ghost Hip

Post Reply
User avatar
decomposing
FAMOUS
FAMOUS
Posts: 1325
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:25 am
Location: space
Contact:

running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x12?

Post by decomposing »

ok thought I would get your thoughts on this before I really do some damage like lemmy, heh
so...
I'm running a short scale SG bass into a 40 watt tube Marshall JCM2000 DSL401 hooked up to a 4x12 loaded up with wgs clones of the G12H 30 watt with bass resonance (55hz).
All the wattage and ohm loads check out, the main concern is melting the transformer or whatever in the amp with running bass.
I mainly run an SG guitar drop tuned to C or C standard, which is bassy but not a bass.
Essentially it'd be like running a octave down playing the bass then... and would be alright... so confused?
They used to do this all the time back in the day because that's all they had, but they just changed out pieces when they melted down.
...or that's how they got THAT sound.
anyways. trying to not fry my amp or voice coils.
all my pedals are guitar and bass friendly. would be cool if my rig was too...
thanks for helping out with my madness
:animal:

(((trades>>>
///ronripper/WesMantooth/thebetasignal/SpaceFlunky/Jnichols2727/pieceofshit/DannDubbleEwe/
Brobee/odontophobia/chuckjaywalk/ChetMagongalo/nevada/BassIsBad/jellyfishfuzz/ingloriousoz/MrNovember/killthenil/K2000///>>>)))
/// images >>> https://www.instagram.com/neuroticexpanse///

User avatar
Bassboar
FAMOUS
FAMOUS
Posts: 1578
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:44 pm
Location: Jotunheim (Canada)

Re: running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x1

Post by Bassboar »

The amp will not fry, unless you're running at 300% to get some headroom for the bass.
It's the speakers you need to worry about, the low frequencies will overtax the them and cause them to blow.
Only if you pump a lot of bass through them though.
sanfordandsonny wrote:guitars are hammers if you put some electrical tape on the handle so the blood doesn't make the hammer slippery so be it.
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
Good deals with: Bellyheart, bronzetalon,kbithecrowning, fuzzmax, jwar, misc1600, hatshirt, colin, chippywallace, Monkey Boy, skullservant, jumbosteelie, foomanfat, sanfordandsonny, pez.period, proroby, excane
User avatar
decomposing
FAMOUS
FAMOUS
Posts: 1325
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:25 am
Location: space
Contact:

Re: running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x1

Post by decomposing »

ok I remember reading that, the excursion of the speaker...
just have to be careful and get a feel for how everything reacts before notching up the volume.
just not a bass amp guy I think, I live for the GROWL

(((trades>>>
///ronripper/WesMantooth/thebetasignal/SpaceFlunky/Jnichols2727/pieceofshit/DannDubbleEwe/
Brobee/odontophobia/chuckjaywalk/ChetMagongalo/nevada/BassIsBad/jellyfishfuzz/ingloriousoz/MrNovember/killthenil/K2000///>>>)))
/// images >>> https://www.instagram.com/neuroticexpanse///

User avatar
snipelfritz
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
Posts: 11703
Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:28 pm
Location: Milwaukee

Re: running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x1

Post by snipelfritz »

Yeah, you're probably better trying to find a bass cab. Maybe a tasty 2x15, MUURRRRRRR?????
BOOM-SHAKALAKALAKA-BOOM-SHAKALAKUNGA
Behndy wrote:i don't like people with "talent" and "skills" that don't feel the need to cover their inadequacies under good time happy sounds.
User avatar
decomposing
FAMOUS
FAMOUS
Posts: 1325
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:25 am
Location: space
Contact:

Re: running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x1

Post by decomposing »

yeah bean leaning that way, could use the guitar on em too.
what would be comparable to the G12H's I have for guitar for bass?

(((trades>>>
///ronripper/WesMantooth/thebetasignal/SpaceFlunky/Jnichols2727/pieceofshit/DannDubbleEwe/
Brobee/odontophobia/chuckjaywalk/ChetMagongalo/nevada/BassIsBad/jellyfishfuzz/ingloriousoz/MrNovember/killthenil/K2000///>>>)))
/// images >>> https://www.instagram.com/neuroticexpanse///

User avatar
bigchiefbc
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
Posts: 7313
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:45 am
Location: Cumberland, RI

Re: running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x1

Post by bigchiefbc »

As was said, the amp will be fine. My main gigging bass rig right now is a Bugera 1960 (which is a clone of a 100 watt Marshall 1959 Super Lead) through a bass cab and it sounds the tits.
Buy my gear! viewtopic.php?f=44&t=58763
Achtane wrote:I can hit it with a Blowing Up and it'll just sound awesome instead of like capacitors farting into each others' dicks.
Achtane wrote:
last.fm wrote:Zs makes music that is variously categorized as no-wave, post-jazz, brutal-chamber, brutal-prog, and post minimalist.
srsly?

Fuck you.
User avatar
decomposing
FAMOUS
FAMOUS
Posts: 1325
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:25 am
Location: space
Contact:

Re: running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x1

Post by decomposing »

what are you using for speakers? want something more like the g12h in character if possible at all

(((trades>>>
///ronripper/WesMantooth/thebetasignal/SpaceFlunky/Jnichols2727/pieceofshit/DannDubbleEwe/
Brobee/odontophobia/chuckjaywalk/ChetMagongalo/nevada/BassIsBad/jellyfishfuzz/ingloriousoz/MrNovember/killthenil/K2000///>>>)))
/// images >>> https://www.instagram.com/neuroticexpanse///

User avatar
MEC
HERO
HERO
Posts: 4651
Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:04 pm
Location: Old North State

Re: running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x1

Post by MEC »

Those speakers go pretty low so I think you'll probably be alright using what you have.
The amp will run a little hotter with the bass so if you plan on playing for more than an hour or so
at a time you may want to put a fan on it if it doesn't already have one.

If you can find a lower wattage Bass speaker with a high sensitivity rating that may work well too.
Image
http://youthministry.bandcamp.com/
http://remainstheband.bandcamp.com/
Achtane wrote:FUZZ ALL DAY MAN FUZZ IS GOD ALL OTHER EFFECTS ARE SHIT
Caesar wrote:Dude, can you get the fuck out of my b/s/t thread with your bullshit.
PumpkinPieces wrote: This isn't America, this is I Love Fuzz.
Mudfuzz wrote:Remember when we were all just a bunch of weirdos that liked fucked up shit and not just a bunch of nerds buying bling to impress each other online?
User avatar
univalve
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
Posts: 6143
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:01 pm
Contact:

Re: running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x1

Post by univalve »

Those speakers will take that. Don't worry. I use them too. And they sound so good with bass.
And back in the days those were invented for bass(guitar).
And i never blew an amp because of playing bass through it...
User avatar
bigchiefbc
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
Posts: 7313
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:45 am
Location: Cumberland, RI

Re: running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x1

Post by bigchiefbc »

decomposing wrote:what are you using for speakers? want something more like the g12h in character if possible at all


I have a Carvin 4x10 and an Avatar 2x12 that I use depending on the situation. The 2x12 are Neos that are made for Avatar. No idea what speakers are in the Carvin, I've never opened it up. :idk:
Buy my gear! viewtopic.php?f=44&t=58763
Achtane wrote:I can hit it with a Blowing Up and it'll just sound awesome instead of like capacitors farting into each others' dicks.
Achtane wrote:
last.fm wrote:Zs makes music that is variously categorized as no-wave, post-jazz, brutal-chamber, brutal-prog, and post minimalist.
srsly?

Fuck you.
User avatar
decomposing
FAMOUS
FAMOUS
Posts: 1325
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:25 am
Location: space
Contact:

Re: running bass into a marshall 40 watt tube amp into a 4x1

Post by decomposing »

awesome, thanks guys. just sold the bass I picked up for a les paul that needs a little love.
first world problems. I know I'll pick up a bass again sometime...
but good to know I set up my rig as a bass monster.
my old neighbors kinda miss me haha

(((trades>>>
///ronripper/WesMantooth/thebetasignal/SpaceFlunky/Jnichols2727/pieceofshit/DannDubbleEwe/
Brobee/odontophobia/chuckjaywalk/ChetMagongalo/nevada/BassIsBad/jellyfishfuzz/ingloriousoz/MrNovember/killthenil/K2000///>>>)))
/// images >>> https://www.instagram.com/neuroticexpanse///

Post Reply