pedal i want: frequency splitter

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pedal i want: frequency splitter

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so long story short i was daydreaming about ways to have certain effects on certain strings of the guitar, which is complicated enough. then i started thinking about it in terms of high and low registers and less about the strings. so what i came up with is what i will call the "frequency splitter"...

basically, signal comes in and you have a knob that determines the frequency at which the signal splits. everything above this point goes to one output, everything below goes to another. kinda like a filter, but instead of rolling off the frequencies above (or below) the cutoff, you send them to a separate output.

knowledgable folks: is this feasible? does this already exist (a cursory search says "no")? is this a solution to a problem that does not exist?
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I don't know about a pedal version that would work well enough but what you're looking for is generally called a crossover.

edit: http://www.rolls.com/product.php?pid=SX21 ???
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fever606 wrote:so long story short i was daydreaming about ways to have certain effects on certain strings of the guitar, which is complicated enough. then i started thinking about it in terms of high and low registers and less about the strings. so what i came up with is what i will call the "frequency splitter"...

basically, signal comes in and you have a knob that determines the frequency at which the signal splits. everything above this point goes to one output, everything below goes to another. kinda like a filter, but instead of rolling off the frequencies above (or below) the cutoff, you send them to a separate output.

knowledgable folks: is this feasible? does this already exist (a cursory search says "no")? is this a solution to a problem that does not exist?


You're describing a crossover, and yes it exists, although usually in rack form. My band uses a dbx 223 crossover in our PA to send the lows to the subwoofers and the highs to the mains.
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FancyMike wrote:I don't know about a pedal version that would work well enough but what you're looking for is generally called a crossover.

edit: http://www.rolls.com/product.php?pid=SX21 ???


yep, that is pretty much exactly what i was thinking about. that rolls even has level adjustment for the high and low outputs.

awesome. and self- :facepalm: because it should have occurred to me.

thanks, mike and big chief! :joy:
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oh, is that little thing ever hip. i'll bet it'll be ideal once i get my two-amplifier stereo setup happening. i want to do a project with just me and a drummer where i can generate bass lines along with my guitar playing, and splitting the bottom strings into a octave doubler post-crossover would be just the trick.
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You can also get one of these with the breakout box:
http://www.ubertar.com/hexaphonic/

If I ever have the money and a good guitar for it, I'll do it for sure!
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I've definitely seen some builders make crossover splitters but I can't remember who right now. Probably most builders here would do it for you, unless I'm wrong about how difficult it is.
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This out left...

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This out right...

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Obulus wrote:You can also get one of these with the breakout box:
http://www.ubertar.com/hexaphonic/

If I ever have the money and a good guitar for it, I'll do it for sure!

yeah, but i kinda wanted to not split up each string. the crossover nails it... high notes (no matter what string they are on) go here, low notes go there.

sonidero wrote:This out left...

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This out right...

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:lol: yes i suppose that would work too!
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Yeah, I think six outs is a little overwhelming too, but I want to try it anyway. The possibilities must be endless!
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There's that big bottom that tym guitars makes but its pretty pricy for what it is...
http://www.tymguitars.com.au/?shopp_product=tym-big-bottom-v2
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That's a pricey clean blend
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fever606 wrote:so long story short i was daydreaming about ways to have certain effects on certain strings of the guitar, which is complicated enough. then i started thinking about it in terms of high and low registers and less about the strings. so what i came up with is what i will call the "frequency splitter"...

basically, signal comes in and you have a knob that determines the frequency at which the signal splits. everything above this point goes to one output, everything below goes to another. kinda like a filter, but instead of rolling off the frequencies above (or below) the cutoff, you send them to a separate output.

knowledgable folks: is this feasible? does this already exist (a cursory search says "no")? is this a solution to a problem that does not exist?


It's been the main tool on my pedalboard for years as it is key in the way I write tunes and play them... I use to have a Paralooper from Moosapotamus and the below will replace it (soon hopefully, but he's been working on it for a while):

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Top row is for part A (highs) of the signal, next row is part B (lows), bottom row is if you return all part of the signal into the pedal instead of going to 2 separate amps.
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I use to dream of the hexaphonic when I was a kid...didn't know it's a reality now...awesome!
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dubkitty wrote:oh, is that little thing ever hip. i'll bet it'll be ideal once i get my two-amplifier stereo setup happening. i want to do a project with just me and a drummer where i can generate bass lines along with my guitar playing, and splitting the bottom strings into a octave doubler post-crossover would be just the trick.


this is what im workin on at the moment as well
im usin the stereo outs of the ps 6
one to a peavy bass amp with the ad9
the other through delaylab into randall410
i know im kinda just hoping that the bassamp
will pump out the lows
and the randall will do the highs
but i didnt know somethin like this existed
or think of usin equalizers, at least one to the bass amp
im leavin for space in few minutes
glad i checked in
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