achieving siamese dream tone with SS AMP

[ImGir]

one of my friends did it, he had a tele, an IC muff, an overdrive with mids control, and some chinese solid state amp that cost him like 50 dollars
he sold the amp today, so i cant borrow it
now im asking you for help
i want to achieve the siamese dream tone but without the marshall JCM 800
or maybe this tone
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sghl4Q8zS0w[/youtube]
i had a sunn beta lead but its broken, and i dont like the clean sound of tube amps, im a bedroom player so i currently have a fender mustang II
any tips?

[The4455]

What pedals do you have?

I would suggest using a muff or muff variant into a distortion pedal set really mildly. I built a clone of a Dan Armstrong Blue screamer which nails that tone by it's self perfectly.

[sonidero]

Have you hooked the Amp up to the FUSE thing??? I just read it has Fuzz... I would try the American 90's setting with some of the delays and reverbs that are built in and that Fuzz it was talking about...

That was a pretty cool song...

[ImGir]

i have a mantra overdrive and a standard NYC muff, the mantra is great but its so damn harsh when i use it after the muff(or was it before, i cant remember), its gets so incredibly distorted that when you try doing chords it just makes a wall of noise, not musical noise like siamese dream but just noise
i cant remember my mantra setting but my muff setting is billy corgan's, that means
1 1 and maxed sustain

[hbombgraphics]

Dude,
you gotta try using the Muff to drive the mantra
keep the mantra on almost no gain and I think you can pull it off
it has a pretty decent EQ

if the mantra can't do it I know a monarch can
basically you want to treat the overdrive like an amp and use the muff to drive it

My mantra has the low gain mod not sure if that helps

[gnr123]

Boss Md-2 will give you a similar sound with all the knobs turned up all the way. They are cheap too.

[hbombgraphics]

dude, what kind of guitar are you using?

[ryan summit]

i had problems gettin a clean setting on the mustang
that worked with pedals
without getting real splattery and choppy(in a very bad way)
i bought it real cheap and sold it cheap to get it out of my life
the fuse software was not user friendly
it wouldnt me stack two dirt pedals
you can download artists presets though
im sure billy corgans SD settings are there
in the fuse forums
good luck with this,i gave up quick,and cringe at the word modelling now

[ImGir]

did it, tried this
guitar-muff-mantra-amp
sounds more buzz-saw like but it doesn't sound close, its sounds good though
i will try to buy an op amp with mids muff

[sonidero]

Just buy a cool pedal or a better amp man... Don't fall into the "I gotta have That to Sound like That" craze...

BE ImGir!!!

[ryan summit]

chasin the siamese dragon
from the back of a mustang

the hero always wins in the end
but the struggles are many
godspeed!!!!!

[GardenoftheDead]

I sort of copped it with a Boss BD-2 going into an MXR Dist+ and an EQ pedal afterward with a slight mid-scoop.

[rfurtkamp]

I've had no problems getting my Mustang V to like pedals on clean settings.

And it's not a user-friendly thing in the software, it's standard multifx "one of this, one of those" but at least lets you put it pre or post amp.

Love the Mustang honestly, it gets 99% of my Deluxe and avery close to enough other stuff that I have no issues.

It even takes an overdrive pedal well.

And it doesn't get splatty even if I hit it with an Ampeg Scrambler maxed.

But yea, hit the right pedal into the right amp model and you're there. "American 90s" and the like on the Mustang will get you close, or start tweaking one of the Marshalls or Bassman.

[ryan summit]

i had the mustang 1 if that makes a difference
there wasnt really a way to fine tweak it without bein hooked up to cpu
i just had problems
sorry for bein negative nancy
now i wish i kept it to join in on this journey
american 90s was the best though
i used supersonic a bunch when usin alot of modulation

[rfurtkamp]

They're all the same under the hood, just the amount of presets available in the amp. wattage/speaker, and the hardware edit/display options.

I've found the software to be quite good honestly, and well, in buying the I/II you don't have the LCD screen and other things that make deep editing less painful.

I can dial in something very fast with it even if it was just a I.

Like most multifx and similar devices, the issue is people not wanting to learn how to operate it.