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Anybody figure out how to rehouse Behringer pedals?

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I'm curious if it'd be possible for someone to get my Behringer pitch shifter (US600 I think it's called) put into a metal enclosure with actual switches and stuff.

As I'm sure anybody who has played with one of their pedals before can tell you, they're made of cheap plastic, have a shitty bypass and just feel crappy. Would any of you builders have any interest in re-enclosing this pitch shifter pedal, and also my Behringer reverb pedal for me? Obviously I'd pay for parts and labor and be eternally grateful :love:

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hosebeast wrote:I'm curious if it'd be possible for someone to get my Behringer pitch shifter (US600 I think it's called) put into a metal enclosure with actual switches and stuff.

As I'm sure anybody who has played with one of their pedals before can tell you, they're made of cheap plastic, have a shitty bypass and just feel crappy. Would any of you builders have any interest in re-enclosing this pitch shifter pedal, and also my Behringer reverb pedal for me? Obviously I'd pay for parts and labor and be eternally grateful :love:

PM me if you're interested, please!


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I'm not sure if I'm up for the job, but I'd be interested to know how hard it is... Behringer pedals are so cheap, I've been wondering whether it's worthwhile buying them and rehousing them properly - maybe with some mods and selling them again for a higher price (with full declaration of what they are). Maybe I'd get killed by a Behringer hunter/killer droid...
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Yes, you chuck em out and buy something better. :idk:
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devnulljp wrote:Yes, you chuck em out and buy something better. :idk:

Nout wrong with them, I use one of there vintage phasers, just true bypassed it, just as good as a small stone.

I've been pondering there DC-2 clone. Wouldn't say no to there DMM copy either.
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Scruffie wrote:Nout wrong with them, I use one of there vintage phasers, just true bypassed it, just as good as a small stone.

I've been pondering there DC-2 clone. Wouldn't say no to there DMM copy either.


I use the DC-2 clone, it's pretty damn good. I A/B'd against an actual DC-2, and they sounded exactly the same. So I kept the 30 dollar pedal and sold the 200 dollar one. Whenever Behringer comes up, you always have a lot of this:


devnulljp wrote:Yes, you chuck em out and buy something better. :idk:


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Yeah man, it's totally possible. Part of it is just rigging it so that whenever the pedal gets power, it's on. And then you wrap it in a true bypass circuit, put it in a hammond box, move the knobs off the PCB, etc. I did this with a few of the Danelectro mini plastic pedals. The corned beef reverb was totally worth rehousing for durability. Loved that thing.
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arent the jacks in the behr like plastic cheapo bs
and mounted directly to the board or somethin
i was contemplating this in my PS search
couldnt drop over $100 when the us600 was right there for $40
but theres enough discussions about it sayin its not worth it
and you got cheap shit in a nice box
friends got the us600,the one i used to use,and it gets the fuck beat out of it
and its held up
my guess too if you disturb its nice little plastic world
itll fall apart in your hands,and turn to dust
anyway somehow i got talked out of it,and i love to save me some $$$
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ryan summit wrote:arent the jacks in the behr like plastic cheapo bs
and mounted directly to the board or somethin
i was contemplating this in my PS search
couldnt drop over $100 when the us600 was right there for $40
but theres enough discussions about it sayin its not worth it
and you got cheap shit in a nice box
friends got the us600,the one i used to use,and it gets the fuck beat out of it
and its held up
my guess too if you disturb its nice little plastic world
itll fall apart in your hands,and turn to dust
anyway somehow i got talked out of it,and i love to save me some $$$
@@@@your getting sleepy@@@@YOUWANTAPS6ANYWAY@@Itssomuchbettttter@@@@@awake!!!
(in dracula voice,wow that was so lame)


Actually the US600 is one of the Behringers that are actually better than the Boss model because it's polyphonic (well, better than the PS-5 anyway, is the PS-6 finally poly?). The Bass Synth is also better than the Boss, as is the Space Chorus because they have extra functionality that the Boss doesn't.
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I have the answer
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it is a lot of work. I can't remember exactly, I think I charged $135 total with international shipping and the purchase of a new UV300. if you were in the USA and provided your own behringer, it would be something like $100. I am not the only one who knows how to do it. if anyone here thinks they want to try a DIY rehouse then read my tutorial.
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yeah the ps-6 is polyphonic
i was wanting a ps 5 so bad beacause i loved the us600
i didnt know it wasnt polyp until you just said it
shit i gotta go back and edit all my posts touting the ps5
so someone at behr actually thinks how to improve what their cloning huh
not just shamelessly copying shit
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The enclosures are actually kinda fine... they're pretty thick ABS. Being plastic it still feels cheap and creaky, but they're fine.

And the parts inside are basically the same kinda thing that Boss, etc uses. The plastic doesn't offer any shielding, though. And they can have noisy bypass sometimes, for whatever reason. Probably has to do with filtering on the digital pedals that they don't have down as well as the more expensive stuff (or just don't care).

Anyways, here's basically what you can expect:

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The digital ones almost certainly have more SMD parts and such, but the pots and switches will still probably be through hole. You can replace the bypass switch with one of those momentary soft touch deals and keep the stock bypass, or hunt down the FET switches, jumper them, and wire up a regular true bypass switch.

The biggest problem is gonna be the size of the PCB. They're bigger than they need to be (to fill the enclosure) so that gives you a bit less room. You shouldn't have any issues sticking it in a 1590BB, though.

It's basically exactly the same procedure as rehousing Boss pedals. I'd, personally, probably go with painting the plastic enclosure with shielding paint and find a way to stick a true bypass switch in the stock box. BUT, I get why people hate the plastic.
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Remove foot latch spring, glue down, drill hole, mount a 3PDTto the right? Then you'd keep the plastic case but make it true bypass. And no one uses 9V batteries on a serious board, so the foot switch can take that space. I'd also want to put in metal jacks, though, and that's a little more cramped. (I've broken at least a half dozen plastic jacks at this point, but mostly in the thinner-walled Dano plastic pedals.)
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ryan summit wrote:yeah the ps-6 is polyphonic
i was wanting a ps 5 so bad beacause i loved the us600
i didnt know it wasnt polyp until you just said it
shit i gotta go back and edit all my posts touting the ps5
so someone at behr actually thinks how to improve what their cloning huh
not just shamelessly copying shit


Yeah, occasionally Behringer will improve the pedal they're cloning. As I said, they do that with the Bass Synth and the Space Chorus, too.
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@McSpunkle, I think it depends on the pedal, some of them have no problems with being unshielded since the PCB design is some of the best I have EVER seen in a guitar pedal. I imagine that they try harder to improve the RFI/EMI characteristics of whatever they are cloning to compensate for the unshielded box. I do however have serious problems with these jacks. the plastic on the jacks is softer than the enclosure. the leaflets inside the jacks are very thin and not so resilient. I did not do a 1000 insertion test but I can totally understand the need for rehousing with switchcraft jacks when taking this thing on a world tour. the momentary is absolute shit but the design of the enclosure limits its range of movement to make it not break lol. the power entry is built like a tank though. jumpering the FET's is such a great idea. I hate tracing SMD when half the traces run under pots and shit. if any of the pedals use 4 layer boards your pretty fucked.
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