Drone/Noise Dudes...

[sonidero]

Hey guys... I did this this afternoon... It's a live mix down to Crapdacity... Lotta dropouts...

"Some things I made with Robert Frost... Some Roland MC307 and a Jazzmaster and a Fuzz Huger and Algal Bloom and Flashback Delay on Slowdive and Snowdrift and El Capistan and the Radio and Korg Monotron Delay and MingRod and Concertmate 200... Leap Day 2012 78074... "

[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/metasound/i-leap-today[/soundcloud]

[WeHuntKings]

Noise and drone is a big part of my sound, and it could be a lot better if my amp was much louder and tubey.



Most of my noise comes some sheer volume from the amp and fuzz pedals, which means a shit ton of feedback. The reverb on the amp is always maxed out (not too washy, but it adds to the amount of sustain and feedback produced). Big Muff and Black Forest on with a very mid range heavy emphasis for big droning riffs with weird drop tunings. Lots of variations on DADGAD, which ends up sounding like a gigantic distorted harp or sitar. When it comes on, the small stone is set to a low filter sweep for space sickness. Crank the HM-2 for pure mid-scooped buzzsaws-on-fire-in-an-earthquake destruction. If there wasn't any feedback before, there sure as hell is now. Notes don't really register so much anymore with all the dirt on. It just melts your ears.

Recently for weird droney noise business that is less metal and more out there, I kick the Black Forest on for a gravely overdrive and set the Flashback to a more digital setting, with the minimum amount of repeats and max the feedback. What results is a veerrrrry strange resonant, almost filtered metallic "BRAAAANNGGGGG" that ends up droning in a different key depending on how you set it. For now it seems to want to resonate in a low G, so I have tuned accordingly (lowest string tuned to low G, everything else is two steps down). The DF-2 comes after the delay and I hold it down to engage the feedbacker/oscillator to further enhance the drone. It almost sounds pretty without the DF-2 engaged, in an abrasive sort of way.

[rot gut]

trogotronic 666 -> eqd ghost echo -> malekko ekko 616 lofi -> malekko ekko 616 -> dod meatbox -> first gen sunn model t -> 2x acoustic 2x15 running black widows

[Wes Mantooth]

Hey guys... I did this this afternoon... It's a live mix down to Crapdacity... Lotta dropouts...

"Some things I made with Robert Frost... Some Roland MC307 and a Jazzmaster and a Fuzz Huger and Algal Bloom and Flashback Delay on Slowdive and Snowdrift and El Capistan and the Radio and Korg Monotron Delay and MingRod and Concertmate 200... Leap Day 2012 78074... "

[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/metasound/i-leap-today[/soundcloud]

I dig it, really kind of put me into a noise trance. One suggestion I would have though is to put some more random sounds in there that kind of jump out from the wall of noise and surprise the listener. It's your piece but just a suggestion you know?

To the last two dudes who posted, your descriptions make me anxious for some clips, hopefully I'll be able to hear something from both of you in the near future because yall have some bad ass gear

[theavondon]

I used to use my 2525 as an oscillator, and fuck with that going into some other distortion, and then into delay, and then into my m9. Anything->particle verb is sick, but a bit trite. I like using tremolo's to bring in and out noise too, for a real hard chop thing. At the end of most sets for my band ECCOTONE, I usually end up throwing my grabber, and getting on my hands and knees, turning on pedals and making the loudest noise possible, then just stomping on my tuner and stopping it all. Two octave up is always fun to throw in, and a pitch shifter in a feedback loop is nuts.

[Wes Mantooth]

I used to use my 2525 as an oscillator, and fuck with that going into some other distortion, and then into delay, and then into my m9. Anything->particle verb is sick, but a bit trite. I like using tremolo's to bring in and out noise too, for a real hard chop thing. At the end of most sets for my band ECCOTONE, I usually end up throwing my grabber, and getting on my hands and knees, turning on pedals and making the loudest noise possible, then just stomping on my tuner and stopping it all. Two octave up is always fun to throw in, and a pitch shifter in a feedback loop is nuts.

Yeah I have a Mad Doctor Stutter trem on its way to me now, can't wait to integrate into my sound

[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/eelfistnoise/swarm[/soundcloud]

Here's a track I just did that's a lot noisier than the previous stuff I posted

[tjlong]

What's your set-up look like? I want to see pedalboards, instruments, amps whatever else you use. I'm also curious about how you go about creating your songs, how you use your gear and all that.

sometimes i use oscilators, like a sleepdrone thingy, maybe into a ring modulator, filters of some sort, maybe a delay. i play some guitar but im pretty bad at it. my main "instrument" i guess is a field recorder, edirol brand. its almost always on me. i tape stuff, anything i come across. traffic noises, printer sounds, ambient sounds, hums, calls to prayer, chants (i love religious spaces like temples and mosques. the space, the sounds), eavesdropped cafe conversations, top 40 radio, whatever. i taped myself ordering KFC once. run it into a glamour box or whatever effect thats lying around. sometimes i loop it with a boss loop pedal. i dont have any real "approach" or artistic "point" to what i do. not an artist by any measure. i just like the idea of finding naturally occurring sounds, sounds meant for some other utilitarian purpose, and moving it around with my fingers (as opposed to using a laptop or a no-input mixer). i dont listen to alot of avant garde drone noise stuff because i dont understand most experimental music. i cant tell someone how to appreciate merzbow or the theories behind minimalism because i dont know and never bothered to learn (for listening i prefer pop, rock, jazz, regular stuff). i just do whatever i feel like and just try to surprise myself with the results. hardly anything gets saved. i do have some wavs of stuff i taped. i posted a picture of my "setup" here once but it got lost when the site went down.

[Moustache_Bash]

Quick question: what's the difference between ambient and noise/drone? Is it that noise/drone is more hard and ambient is more ethereal?
Like what's this,
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ge0zBHCfgE[/youtube]

[Wes Mantooth]

Quick question: what's the difference between ambient and noise/drone? Is it that noise/drone is more hard and ambient is more ethereal?
Like what's this,
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ge0zBHCfgE[/youtube]

I'd say the that drone and ambient are definitely similar genres, noise being a little more harsh though.

[kbit]

Getting into technicalities, I would say ambient music doesn't have to have sustained tones (drones) but it certainly can and often does, where as drone is directly focused on a sustained tone or tones. So the lines can be blurred. Especially since a lot of ambient music relies on a lot of reverb.

Like I would consider this track ambient, but not drone. Granted there is some ethereal reverby stuff going on, its not the focus of the piece and it kind of acts as a harmony rather than a drone.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYu4kg6-Vt4[/youtube]

Where as this I would consider noise/drone. There is guitar and melodic elements, but the basis of the piece is centered around that one sustained pitch, even though it changes timbre/octave. & it's harsher, as Wes pointed out.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkD4Fdkc4po[/youtube]

[dase]

Digging these tracks dude

thanks, really into how restrained yours are! There's some cool shit going on in this thread.

[Wes Mantooth]

Digging these tracks dude

thanks, really into how restrained yours are! There's some cool shit going on in this thread.

Thanks! Yeah we certainly do have some cool shit going on here. I'm hoping phantasmagorovich stops by this thread and posts his rig because his band OWWL is sick!

and kbi, that was a very good explanation

[skullservant]

Got my Moog Ring Mod from Zounds today. Started patching it into itself and it makes the sickest analog synth ever. Pure ASTRO worship. I'm really excited about the pedal. I'm not sure how much I will use it on guitar yet, but I'm getting another power supply so I can have my Bass Murf and Ring Mod on together. I want to see what kind of patches I can make with the two of those before my low pass filter comes. Psyched!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNVPDJ9Rvuc[/youtube]

[Wes Mantooth]

Got my Moog Ring Mod from Zounds today. Started patching it into itself and it makes the sickest analog synth ever. Pure ASTRO worship. I'm really excited about the pedal. I'm not sure how much I will use it on guitar yet, but I'm getting another power supply so I can have my Bass Murf and Ring Mod on together. I want to see what kind of patches I can make with the two of those before my low pass filter comes. Psyched!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNVPDJ9Rvuc[/youtube]

Damn!

Got some Moog GAS now!

[Fuzz_Pi]

Got my Moog Ring Mod from Zounds today. Started patching it into itself and it makes the sickest analog synth ever. Pure ASTRO worship. I'm really excited about the pedal. I'm not sure how much I will use it on guitar yet, but I'm getting another power supply so I can have my Bass Murf and Ring Mod on together. I want to see what kind of patches I can make with the two of those before my low pass filter comes. Psyched!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNVPDJ9Rvuc[/youtube]

Gah can't wait for randy to return.

Need a ring mod