Wait WHUT NEW KLON TIME!!!!!!!!!

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No, you're right to some extent. He's definitely a bit of a salesman. Maybe more than a bit? Some people claim abilities that they don't necessarily possess. Hearing minute differences? Eh, maybe. Is it the best? To some people it is. It's all so subjective.

Those diodes aren't anything special, but they're what the circuit is based around. Does that make them special? IDK? This wouldn't be the only case where a run of the mill part dictates other component choices. Sometimes designers find something that works out well for some unknown reason and to change it affects everything else adversely. Layout changes do, however, affect sonics. You might not think so, but that part's true.

NOT FOR ILF? ILF ears are too blown out?

I don't think the old PCB would've fit in a smaller enclosure. Have you tried rehousing one?

He's the one that consistently says the diodes are what make the circuit...

Urmm... can you give me your evidence for layout affecting tone? Im sorry I just don't buy it, there's no reason it should, other than what I said about tiny amounts of capacitance, which I doubt any of us can pick up on except when they produce oscillation. You can't just state it as out right truth.

No the old PCB would not fit a smaller enclosure, I mean the circuit would, the circuit will fit a 1590B with a bit of difficulty or a 125B Easily.


Yeah, I don't necessarily believe everything he says (or even most of it).

I don't have any evidence as far as layout affecting tone. That's fine that you don't buy it, but I've heard it from a few different sources. You're right, I can't state it as an outright fact. I've no proof to back it up. As I'm sure you know more about electronics than I do, I'll defer to your experience.
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J-Fuzz wrote:I have played with a real one only once, and after that I quit my dissin'. The thing has this weird crystalline quality that I haven't really heard in another low gain overdrive that was supposed to be like it.

:wha?:

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hahaha...maybe that was a bad way to say it. What about this? It's kind of like a compression sustainer, casual (or experienced) ears can't always tell there is anything on, but the person holding the guitar definitely can.

Yeah...fuck it. I don't really know what I'm saying at this point. Time to migrate over to the high/drunk thread in general discussion. Later gators. :p
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ha. I love my stupid Klon. who cares?
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should i post a layout for a 125b enclosure?
i don't really buy any of that hype, mojo talk, golden ears bullshit or layout affecting teh toanz.
just me though.

i do understand that there are minute differences in sound that are exactly that - different. tough to say that one is better than another when you get down to such subtleties.
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Hey, in space no one can hear your 600.00$ tubescreamer. :erm:

BUT the new is/might be around the reasonable 200.00 USD? All righty then!

At least I think I will try the new one out. Compare it to a lube reamer and And Aardvarks and some others.

...though usually, if it's low gain, I might just not be interested. Unless it's rusty, edgy, and crunchy sort of low gain ripping my ears, boosting and tightening the fuzz. Uh! :rock: :animal:
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wont be around 200, closer to old klon price
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Pricing isn't finalized but it's cheaper than old Klon...
wouldn't be surprised if it was more than $200 though

So between $200-325 :lol:
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Gunner Recall wrote:Pricing isn't finalized but it's cheaper than old Klon...
wouldn't be surprised if it was more than $200 though

So between $200-325 :lol:



Id give it a go for under $300.
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To be a reasonable price, it needs to be under $200. It just doesn't have the controls to justify a higher price, and if they're just using plain boxes now, there's nothing special about it at all.

The Klon circuit was a bit more complex than a Tubescreamer, but putting it on a PCB isn't any harder, and at that point it's not more complicated than a Big Muff.

Still, if it's under $300 (I think-- I don't really know what Klons cost originally), it'll be an improvement, but they need to do something pretty special with the circuit to justify a higher price.

Being an overdrive doesn't automatically make circuits worthy of being more expensive. :idk:

But, alas, I'm not who they're marketing to, sooooo.
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Too many middlemen now, that'll jack the price.

Before it was all Bill.
Now it's Bill+Outside Builders+Dealers all taking a cut.

Used prices should be reasonable though.
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Pfff anyway, fuck Klons, they're like... childrens overdrive, you don't know tone and crystal lettuces untill you've got a super human touch tone optimizer...

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Scruffie wrote:Pfff anyway, fuck Klons, they're like... childrens overdrive, you don't know tone and crystal lettuces untill you've got a super human touch tone optimizer...

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No, Zachary speaks the truth.

I've got one of those pedals. My tone has never been mo' optimized in my life. I don't even have to actually touch the guitar. Yeah, it's that sensitive. I just think about how I wanna sound and, "BAM!!!", there it is. SuperNatural™. (The secret's really the MXR knob condom.)
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I know and the boost doesn't just go from 0 - 20... no these go from 5-25, that's like, 5 whole betters!

I love how on the page for that there's a whole section saying the klon is shit and overpriced :lol:
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Scruffie wrote:I know and the boost doesn't just go from 0 - 20... no these go from 5-25, that's like, 5 whole betters!

I love how on the page for that there's a whole section saying the klon is shit and overpriced :lol:


5-25?

Haha ha ha ha ha ha.
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