dorfmeister wrote:Nice.....I like the Gretsch stuff.
me too. these are USA Classics, but on a budget, the Renowns are the killerest new drums I've come across. I just super dig the 30 degree bearing edge/diecast hoop thing - I'm one of those asshole who wants a NOTE from my toms. I like that they haven't followed trends, just kept making their same excellent drums.
haha, you're a weirdo, dude! how do you get that kick through doors? 21" is crazy deep. I hope you have a lot of leg, cuz that's a lot of air to get moving!
I don't like 12"s, but I like 10"s less, ha....maybe ok for putting guacamole in, something like that. actually, 12"s sound great in a bop kit.
Zounds Perspex wrote:haha, you're a weirdo, dude! how do you get that kick through doors? 21" is crazy deep. I hope you have a lot of leg, cuz that's a lot of air to get moving!
Ya'know... I usually bring a sledgehammer with me when carrying around my drums... so doors aren't a real problem Foot works fine with the kick.. no problems
Zounds Perspex wrote:I don't like 12"s, but I like 10"s less, ha....maybe ok for putting guacamole in, something like that. actually, 12"s sound great in a bop kit.
I wanted to have a HUGE deep kickdrum sound (compared to the 20" on my old set) but still keep the sound of the toms I had... so yeah.. kickdrum got bigger, toms stayed the same
I'm just so used to vintage sizes. Even when I play super standard 18" deep kick drums, they seem sluggish to me compared to a good ol' 14" deep kick. I miss the respsonsiveness, ya know? Deep kicks definitely go BOOM, though.
if you like big cymbals Paiste 2002 is def the way to go only problem is they would only last 6 to 8 months before i would crack the hell out of em (i play really hard and sometimes with marching sticks), zildjian makes a few bigger cymbals now including 16" hi-hats but i find zildjians to be blah like the protools of the cymbal world, and theres a company called stagg that makes ridiculously huge cymbals (30" ride for the win!). Meinl is awesome for more traditional or more elctronic sounds. I've also had great luck with Istanbul cymbals their tone is fantastic (agop series is what to look for), sabians are great for metal and rock and hold up pretty well but to me their cymbals are usually one trick ponies. Once i can get to a non work comp i will post some pics of my kits over the years..... and theres alot of them, atleast 4 main kits and dozens of variations i played them in. btw Dorf i love the 2 piece kit, thats what i currently play now (gretsch club mod 22x20 kick custom painted satin black with black hardware, and either a 10x6 ddrum birch snare or a custom keller 12x1.5 free floating snare..... yes i said 1.5 depth and i use all black pearl hardware stands) i'm looking at getting the meinl gen x cymbals and triggers which will be run through effects to be setup for a "doomstep" project that is just drums and vocals w/ analog synths and samples all running through seperate effects chains..... it's gun be crazy.....
Iommic Pope wrote:
Skip, you rule. You hate people so much, you're willing to discredit all human progress, its awesome.
Zildjian, no doubt about it. 13" K hats, 22" K Dark Medium ride, and an 18" A Medium crash is just about perfect for me!
McSpunckle wrote:Pee, on the other hand, is full of other things that make it more conductive. That's why you don't pee outside in a lightning storm without first putting on your steel dick sheath.
You can't go wrong, really. They all cover about the same territory depending on which category you want. They all have brilliant cymbals, dry cymbals, etc., so it's all about what sounds and feels good to you. I'd say just go an try everything out.
Used is the way to go, the last cymbla I bought, new it would have been $225 adn I got it kinda used for $70, it sounds amazing. It's a Sabain AAX 18in Dark Crash
and i use all black pearl hardware stands) i'm looking at getting the meinl gen x cymbals and triggers which will be run through effects to be setup for a "doomstep" project that is just drums and vocals w/ analog synths and samples all running through seperate effects chains..... it's gun be crazy.....
