squier j mascis

[t-rey]

rattle cans from the automobile supply store or hobby shop. "NAPA know-how, NAPA know-how..."

Touche. And it's not super expensive, so I wouldn't feel back about painting it myself.

[CBA]

no no i didn't mean to sound snobby or so.

it's just that... oh man how do i put this...

i mean, "our generation", you had to "work up" to a jazzy, so to speak. this SO cool looking guitar was SO far away. we started out on cheap strats and stuff and then FINALLY we could get an offset. it was like "graduation" - i deserve it.

it's cool that the kids nowadays can get it from the start... but somehow they're spoonfed all these things, all too easily.

yes there'll still be the "someday i'll get a real/old one like this guy's...", they'll still have to work.
but there'll be SO many emo/crappola bands with jazzmasters now.

oh forget it.

spoonfed?

I know the discussion over this is already done, but I had to chime in here and say that this is FUCKING STUPID. Like the point of owning a guitar is to HAVE A THING. A piece of equipment that was designed to accompany you as you play music is again reduced to THIS THING... this hallowed object that exists for people to GET. "Son, you're far more talented than I'll ever be, and you seem to just make beautiful music on anything from foil windowshades to rubberbands... but you'll still have to work your way up to HAVING A THING, which will then, and only then, officially render you a real musician. Now watch me play a scale on my $6,000 Jazzmaster."

I do love the Beatles, but as a young tot born in 1981, my biggest musical heroes are Kurt Cobain and Dave Grohl (and Krist), who did anything they could to produce what is perhaps the last truly brilliant pop music ever. Yes, they eventually became able to pick and choose whatever they wanted to play, but as actual real artists with an insatiable desire to just MAKE MUSIC, they grabbed whatever bullshit was laying around and DID IT. Kurt's first demo of any of his music was recorded on his Aunt's bass on a home stereo, and THAT'S IT (besides maybe what sounds like big books for drums). He wrote some of the greatest pop rock songs ever on his shitty Stella acoustic and whatever electric guitar he could get his poor hands on. It's called being a musician.

I'm so sorry that people like OSG (whomever he may be) is/are just a person that possesses a thing. And that's it. He almost says it himself... it's like "I played cheap Strats and stuff when I was young and full of talent and energy... then I worked up to GETTING A THING and that has become the ultimate goal, and it has replaced any desire I had for actually creating something."

WELP.

C

[Pacafeliz]

ok i'm the ass who posted that on OSG and it seems it will bring bad mojo from all over and haunt me for the rest of days...

i'm the LAST one to think of myself as a snobbish a-hole or so, and i don't think i have to "justify" what i wrote, still, i posted this little "add-on" over at shortscale as i was being thrown in the flames...

heh... thanks guys! :oops:

i confess i was a bit tipsy when i typed that... i'm a bit of a romantic, or better said, a nostalgic, or whatever you call it.

OF COURSE i find it fantastic that EVERYBODY can now get a cool jazzmaster. hey and they'll even find out about J Mascis, Dinosaur Jr., the 90s, the "grunge" movement, good music, heart and soul... the "collateral benefit" is huge!!

but i think, somehow, deep down, we all feel a bit like what i described in that post. at least us that were (at least) teenagers in the 90s.
trust me, i'm by no means an egoist, a snob or an asshole. (ok i CAN be an asshole sometimes)

but remember, i work as an primary school teacher. i try (and do) to show them (nowadays oh so) spoiled kids that life isn't a fucking picnic (without the f, of course), like my dad used to say.
it was and still IS delicious to want, REALLY REALLY want something, and doing the impossible to finally get what you REALLY wanted. work for it, fight for it, bleed for it.

i mean, i had to wait 32 years to get my VW Kombi... and even better, i got lucky and got a camper. i will baby that car ... like my baby!

so it was with jags/jazzers for me. ever since i saw teh kurdtz back then, and sonic youth, and dino jr... i was like "fuck what a cool guitar" - WANT!
then, when i graduated from high school in costa rica in '97 my dad gave me $500 to "buy something that makes you happy".
i started investigating how much a sunburst jag/jazzy costs. CIJ was $799. i needed to get $300 more to make my dream come true....
i worked as a tourist guide/translator, i did lawns, i even did shitty office/phone central work. and i EARNED THAT CASH.

sometime later, also as graduation gift, my aunt/godmother(?) who lives in houston, invited me to come visit for a week or two.

but she was always too busy to take me to a guitar store, until the last day. i looked for them jags and jazzers all over, but mars music had just closed (gone bankrupt, i think), and they did have 'em in blue and red, but i wanted sunburst.
finally, i found a s/b jazzmaster and jag at evan's guitar store. i tried them out. i REALLY wanted the jag (teh kurdtz and teh chrome/bling), but the jazzmaster felt SO much better. and IIRC it was even a bit cheaper than the jag. my aunt gave me another $50 and so i walked out with a brand-new sunburst jazzmaster AND a little wooden box with russian stuff on it. in it, a green sovtek big muff. (yes for $49.99) and some fender picks.

I
WAS
FUCKING
KING.

...ok did i get off-topic?

so maybe now, emo-kiddo sees that guy from paramore with a jazzmaster. wants a jazzmaster. goes to GC and gets a jazzmaster.
"mom i'm bored, guitar playing sucks..." and then he makes a youtube video of him flipping and/or smashing it.

...

get it now?
a bit apocalyptic yes, but full of love, somehow.

snobby? well no i don't feel snobby. but whatever.


btw, of course i still have that guitar. when i started going out with my (now) wife 10 years ago, i wanted to share something REALLY fucking special with her. so i cut/carved her name (Maria) into the back of the headstock of the guitar, then we slit our thumbs and filled the name with our blood (...) --- before engaging in intense coitus. ok maybe not... the coitus part... *whistles*



i've used and abused the guitar, thrown it around, modded it, i drew and puked on it.
cuz it's fucking SPECIAL.

geez what a fucking snob i am, huh?

love,

Pat.

still, sorry if no one here (confesses) understands my point.

note to self: stay off the pc when drinking.

Pat.

[snipelfritz]

Forum comments seem positive for the Duncan-Design JM pickups in the Squier Vintage-Modified Jazzy. If the Squier JM JM uses the same and they are proper JMs rather than Strat pickups, maybe an upgrade is more in the range of "optional" than "recommended."

First thing is to swap out the bridge assuming it's of the same ilk and somewhere from equal to lower quality compared to the Blacktop ones. That was pretty much the only problem with that guitar(except the volume and tone pots do drop off right around 8), but I bought it with different pups than the stock one's so .

Either way I agree this is awesome and that Squire has been doing a lot of good work in the last couple of years. They'll always be selling those $99 starter packs, but it's nice to see them being a bit more daring with their higher(for Squier) end products.

[CBA]

ok i'm the ass who posted that on OSG and it seems it will bring bad mojo from all over and haunt me for the rest of days...

i'm the LAST one to think of myself as a snobbish a-hole or so, and i don't think i have to "justify" what i wrote, still, i posted this little "add-on" over at shortscale as i was being thrown in the flames...

heh... thanks guys! :oops:

i confess i was a bit tipsy when i typed that... i'm a bit of a romantic, or better said, a nostalgic, or whatever you call it.

OF COURSE i find it fantastic that EVERYBODY can now get a cool jazzmaster. hey and they'll even find out about J Mascis, Dinosaur Jr., the 90s, the "grunge" movement, good music, heart and soul... the "collateral benefit" is huge!!

but i think, somehow, deep down, we all feel a bit like what i described in that post. at least us that were (at least) teenagers in the 90s.
trust me, i'm by no means an egoist, a snob or an asshole. (ok i CAN be an asshole sometimes)

but remember, i work as an primary school teacher. i try (and do) to show them (nowadays oh so) spoiled kids that life isn't a fucking picnic (without the f, of course), like my dad used to say.
it was and still IS delicious to want, REALLY REALLY want something, and doing the impossible to finally get what you REALLY wanted. work for it, fight for it, bleed for it.

i mean, i had to wait 32 years to get my VW Kombi... and even better, i got lucky and got a camper. i will baby that car ... like my baby!

so it was with jags/jazzers for me. ever since i saw teh kurdtz back then, and sonic youth, and dino jr... i was like "fuck what a cool guitar" - WANT!
then, when i graduated from high school in costa rica in '97 my dad gave me $500 to "buy something that makes you happy".
i started investigating how much a sunburst jag/jazzy costs. CIJ was $799. i needed to get $300 more to make my dream come true....
i worked as a tourist guide/translator, i did lawns, i even did shitty office/phone central work. and i EARNED THAT CASH.

sometime later, also as graduation gift, my aunt/godmother(?) who lives in houston, invited me to come visit for a week or two.

but she was always too busy to take me to a guitar store, until the last day. i looked for them jags and jazzers all over, but mars music had just closed (gone bankrupt, i think), and they did have 'em in blue and red, but i wanted sunburst.
finally, i found a s/b jazzmaster and jag at evan's guitar store. i tried them out. i REALLY wanted the jag (teh kurdtz and teh chrome/bling), but the jazzmaster felt SO much better. and IIRC it was even a bit cheaper than the jag. my aunt gave me another $50 and so i walked out with a brand-new sunburst jazzmaster AND a little wooden box with russian stuff on it. in it, a green sovtek big muff. (yes for $49.99) and some fender picks.

I
WAS
FUCKING
KING.

...ok did i get off-topic?

so maybe now, emo-kiddo sees that guy from paramore with a jazzmaster. wants a jazzmaster. goes to GC and gets a jazzmaster.
"mom i'm bored, guitar playing sucks..." and then he makes a youtube video of him flipping and/or smashing it.

...

get it now?
a bit apocalyptic yes, but full of love, somehow.

snobby? well no i don't feel snobby. but whatever.


btw, of course i still have that guitar. when i started going out with my (now) wife 10 years ago, i wanted to share something REALLY fucking special with her. so i cut/carved her name (Maria) into the back of the headstock of the guitar, then we slit our thumbs and filled the name with our blood (...) --- before engaging in intense coitus. ok maybe not... the coitus part... *whistles*



i've used and abused the guitar, thrown it around, modded it, i drew and puked on it.
cuz it's fucking SPECIAL.

geez what a fucking snob i am, huh?

love,

Pat.

still, sorry if no one here (confesses) understands my point.

note to self: stay off the pc when drinking.

Pat.

I can dig it.


C

[rfurtkamp]

Hoping it's a decent basic platform.

I'm not willing to pay market for any of the offsets.

They will forever be the "what I could afford" instead of a Strat or an LP or an Explorer back in the day, permanent $100 "how many you want" guitars that were 1/5 the cost of even a tolerable Strat of no particular specialness of vintage.

[bob the r0bot]

In case you haven't been following the shortscale.org thread, the rumored price (in the UK) is something in the neighborhood of 350 pounds which is what classic vibes started out costing so, we can expect these to be about $400 at launch before quickly dipping to $300.

Side note: If you have a blacktop you don't plan to keep once this releases, now is the time to sell it.

EDIT: I'm not going to bother resurrecting the squier mustang bass thread so, have a link: http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/Fender-Squier-Vintage-Modified-Mustang-Bass-Maple-Fingerboard-3-Tone-Sunburst.html

[electrical]

[Fuzzy Picklez]

I'd love to try one of these.
I wasn't a huge fan of the Fender ones I played, and would have had to change tons of stuff on a blacktop, so this looks good to me!
Plus I can paint it.

[dubkitty]

i'm thinking "finally! a new, functional guitar that would do interesting sonic things and that i could bash around, slam up against speaker cabinets, use mic stands as slides, plaster with stickers, etc. and just not care." it's a Squier, so the idea of even having resale value is a non-starter, so there's really no reason not to go all Jeff Beck-in-the-Yardbirds on its ass. and since it's a Fender, you'd have to run it over with a Peterbilt to break it. how fun!

[Fuzzy Picklez]

i'm thinking "finally! a new, functional guitar that would do interesting sonic things and that i could bash around, slam up against speaker cabinets, use mic stands as slides, plaster with stickers, etc. and just not care." it's a Squier, so the idea of even having resale value is a non-starter, so there's really no reason not to go all Jeff Beck-in-the-Yardbirds on its ass. and since it's a Fender, you'd have to run it over with a Peterbilt to break it. how fun!

[theavondon]

i'm thinking "finally! a new, functional guitar that would do interesting sonic things and that i could bash around, slam up against speaker cabinets, use mic stands as slides, plaster with stickers, etc. and just not care." it's a Squier, so the idea of even having resale value is a non-starter, so there's really no reason not to go all Jeff Beck-in-the-Yardbirds on its ass. and since it's a Fender, you'd have to run it over with a Peterbilt to break it. how fun!

So, like Sonic Youth treated their Fender's?

[dubkitty]

yeah, or Jimi Hendrix. or Jeff Beck, if you've seen the Yardbirds footage in the original Antonioni version of Blow-Up. as a hommage to that clip, i like to refer to kicking my amplifier as "The Jeff Beck Method of Amplifier Maintenance."

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zeza1xeWKM[/youtube]

[bob the r0bot]

So, like Sonic Youth treated their Fender's?

Exactly.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAx2743ShYI[/youtube]
Gotta get TEh THurStoNS

[Gearmond]

getting back to the whole cycle of rop of the line becoming cheap, i like the little niche price range old univoxes float in.

more likely to see a pedal for more than $1,000 and aside from cosmetics, most ones for $300 or less are in perfect condition.