OSG guy wrote:no no i didn't mean to sound snobby or so.
it's just that... oh man how do i put this...
i mean, "our generation", you had to "work up" to a jazzy, so to speak. this SO cool looking guitar was SO far away. we started out on cheap strats and stuff and then FINALLY we could get an offset. it was like "graduation" - i deserve it.
it's cool that the kids nowadays can get it from the start... but somehow they're spoonfed all these things, all too easily.
yes there'll still be the "someday i'll get a real/old one like this guy's...", they'll still have to work. but there'll be SO many emo/crappola bands with jazzmasters now.
oh forget it.
spoonfed?
I got three facepalms and a scolding for telling Pacafeliz that he's a fool.
The more I go over there the more I find myself incredibly turned off by the whole mentality of OSG.
based on what i've seen playing guitar since 1970, it'll probably be:
of fairly simple and dependable construction: when the build or the hardware gets too detailed you run into the Germany in WWII problem where your technology isn't dependable enough to function in battle. every lovely little inlaid doodad is a piece that can fall out if your guitar gets knocked over, and every lamination is a joint that can fail. the more things that can break which can't be fixed with a screwdriver, a pocketknife, and a piece of aluminum foil backstage by flashlight, the less likely the design is to live forever.
not particularly ornate/decorative: beautiful things get damaged unless you've got someone employed to protect them, and once they're damaged they aren't so beautiful any more. and if they don't get damaged, they're so attractive that people steal them.
equipped with passive electronics: active electronics almost always fail at some point. one seldom sees an instrument with active electronics from the 80s/early 90s which has the electronics intact and fully functional, and many 70s active electronics don't even have schematics available.
it's quite possible that years from now, if the kinds of worldwide changes that i worry about are forthcoming, people will be buying Squier Classic Vibe guitars for premium prices and dreaming of the days when we could buy Indonesian guitars for $200.
In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni
FIFTY YEARS OF SCARING THE CHILDREN 1970-2020--and i'm not done yet
dubkitty wrote:equipped with passive electronics: active electronics almost always fail at some point. one seldom sees an instrument with active electronics from the 80s/early 90s which has the electronics intact and fully functional, and many 70s active electronics don't even have schematics available.
my hohner from (i think) late 80s has the dodgiest actives ever, if i had the skillz i'd just tear them out and fully passive that fucker
Darwin
behndy wrote:PUT YOUR PUSSY ON THE BOARD RIGHT FUCKING NOW SO DADDY CAN TREAT IT RIGHT YOU MOCHA GODDESS.
Fuzzy Fred wrote:no offense to anyone here, but I don't get it. Why take a ~500 dollar guitar, then drop another 3-400 in upgrades?
I'm weird. I guess I'll hold out for a used AVRi...
It is cool that squier is doing all of these cool guitars though
I have a squire custom tele II, and I only spent maybe another 2-300$ in upgrades but it sounds way better than a MIM Tele.
the guitar was about 300$, I spent an extra 100$ on a bridge pick up, new tuner (70$), changed some pots that was it. Looks good and sounds great. I was surprised that the neck was fine the way it was too.
I would do the same with a squire jazzmaster and only change the trem if its absolutely necessary.
if i was going to get into one of these, i'd just change the pickups assuming they weren't acceptable (which they may well be...i have two Epiphones with the original humbucking PUs, which i find quite similar to how 60s humbuckers sounded when they were a few years old in the early 70s). my life is WAY too short to get into changing JM pots and shit. that'd make it a $550-600 project at most, which is loads less than a used AVRI and probably less than a used Classic Player from which fussy people also swap the PUs.
In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni
FIFTY YEARS OF SCARING THE CHILDREN 1970-2020--and i'm not done yet
