Boss DD-3 as a stutter pedal - how?

[andrew00]

Hey,

So I was watching this video

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dpJIBGSODk[/youtube]

Take a listen to the solo, it hits around 1.20/1.25

The guy is turning on Boss DD's on and off to give the repeat stutter, I googled it and saw this interview about the recording of their new album just out - http://emusician.com/interviews/feature ... pressures/ and it says he has two DD-3's but I still don't get how it works

I mean, initially I thought he was using the Boss DD-3 hold function, but firstly it looks like he's clicking on and off vs depressing, i.e. it's a latched effect, and secondly the DD-3 hold afaik can only go as fast as 200ms, whereas that's a much faster effect. (The interview above does talk about him cascading one delay into the other but I don't think so here)

Then I thought - ok he must be using the regular delay - so I took out my DD-7, turned the feedback up to get the constant repeats, and got a nice quick delay - around 3 on 200ms or 9 on 50ms ish.

But whenever I do this, the moment I turn off the pedal, the feedback keeps going for 3-5 seconds after I've turned the pedal off.

And yet in the video, the moment he clicks off it goes off.

So I'm confused! Can anyone shed some light on it - as the hold can't go fast enough and the regularly delay has a feedback on my DD-7 so I don't know how his doesn't? Confusion!

[01010111]

If he's using two it could be that they are set to complimentary times to give the illusion of having a faster hold time

[thezeng]

Don't activate trails
awesome effect though.

[putsia]

I don't know how he does it with just DD-3s but wouldn't putting any oscillating delay into a bypass loop work like that?

[mff]

But whenever I do this, the moment I turn off the pedal, the feedback keeps going for 3-5 seconds after I've turned the pedal off.

And yet in the video, the moment he clicks off it goes off.

i think this has been up before. and as thezeng said - no trails. the dd3 doesn't have trails.

[andrew00]

Oh right, so you're saying that whereas the DD-7 keeps going when you click off to continue the feedback as it were, the DD-3 ends when you click off regardless of the feedback?

Meaning he's doing it with a super quick delay time + lots of feedback and it simple goes off when he clicks off - which some might say is less 'advanced' but actually works perfectly for him to do this effect?

Oh and I should say, is this still the same on new DD-3's, it's not just the older ones? I.E. if I get a newer DD-3 I'll be good to go!

[mff]

Yeah. The one I had, a newer one, had no trails, so there should be no problems. I had it stolen, and I miss it - fortunately it isn't very expensive. It's a great pedal for what it does.

Oh yeah, and

[andrew00]

Great, sounds just the ticket then and should get rid of my confusion - new-old technology love.

Also, that photo is AMAZING heh.

[Seedy]

The sample/hold on my DD5 is a latching effect with a very fast response time. Here's me on my Algal Bloom and DD5 doing exactly this kind of thing: [soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/sim-tut/fuzzhugger-algal-bloom-with-boss-dd-5[/soundcloud] The quiet part around 1:20 gives indication of how short/fast it can be.

[mauerkraut]

it's not the hold function. it's a really quick delay time with a lower feedback, e. level all the way up. i can do this on my dd-5 or the dd-3 in my practice room.

[StopReferencing]

it's not the hold function. it's a really quick delay time with a lower feedback, e. level all the way up. i can do this on my dd-5 or the dd-3 in my practice room.

Something like this was my guess as well.

[Seedy]

See, when I tried to do this just now with a fast repeat and low feedback the repeats just kinda washed together or faded too quickly, and turning the effect off mid-riff like in the video it continued trailing. With the hold function I got nice crisp repeats that stopped on a dime. Either way, the DD5 will do this.

[CaptainWampum]

I was under the impression he was using a dd-6, on which you hold down the button to use the hold so he just clicks it and it samples and repeats that tiny little noise until he stomps again.

[andrew00]

The DD-5/6/7 have trails but the DD-3 doesn't.

Therefore I reckon it's a DD-3 w/fast delay and essentially infinite repeats, that he turns off when he wants it off.

[Blurillaz]

DD-3 doesn't have trails, so it's just a short delay time, volume and feedback cranked. Hold function does the same thing really, you just have to hold the pedal down for as long as you want it.














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