What's the best standard sized non fuzz pedal?

[Noise...]

What about another delay? I love my Memory Toy - enough to sell my DE7.

[sylnau]

I also like my Catalinbread Heliotrope a lot!!!

[julius_deane]

What about another delay? I love my Memory Toy - enough to sell my DE7.

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I was going to get this to pair with my MB, so I can have duel settings, but then I realized one would just be on chorus all the time, so I'm looking at similarly priced chorus pedals now. MT is still an option, though.

I also agree that it sounds like you want Mid-Fi stuff. If I had more (read: any) cash, I'd be getting a PP rot about now. :we need a pulling-out empty pockets smilie:

[01010111]

So far it's either the proteus, the clari(not) or one of the zcat pedals. I can do a lot of pitch piratey stuff with the the ring thing. The heliotrope looks great, but between the yr 4545 and the ring thing i think I can cop most of those tones.

A different flavored delay's a possibility and that zcat hold 2 has delay, and that hold feature sounds a lot like the freeze to me but a lot more versatile.

I really liked my memory toy when I had it, i just remember it disappearing whenever I turned on the fuzz, have you found it to cut the dry signal volume without boosting the delayed signal after about 11? I really loved the modulation and oscillation it had though

[Wes Mantooth]

Catalinbread Pareidolia might be a cool pedal to add

[jrmy]

Subdecay Noise Box is MXR sized, and that thing is KAY-RAY-ZEE!

[Jero]

How about something from copilot?

[dubkitty]

i note for the record that the specs for the Zcat pedals call for a 10kohm minimum impedance load for best results, which is to say that they'd probably need to be placed at the beginning of your signal chain.

[dorfmeister]

Malekko Omicron vibrato or trem.

[mathias]

Malekko Omicron vibrato or trem.

Those are super cool. Or, if we're on mini pedals, the Malekko Spring Chicklet, the Catalinbread Valcoder, if that one is your thing (Only does square-wave trem AFAIK.)

[01010111]

i note for the record that the specs for the Zcat pedals call for a 10kohm minimum impedance load for best results, which is to say that they'd probably need to be placed at the beginning of your signal chain.

Really? Well that puts zcat out of the running. They have some cool sounding stuff but I dont really think it's cool enough to make that kind of exception for them.

That Pareidolia sounds amazing. I was gassing for that pretty hard a while back. So maybe, I'm mostly looking for weirdness or maybe a looper of some kind. That latest copilot offering looks promising.

I had the pedal the subdecay noisebox was based on. It was a lot of fun but I never really bonded with that sound. I couldn't get it to play well in feedback loops for some reason either lots of great laser sounds though.

Those omicron pedals do look pretty fun. I would get a chicklet but I have a mini rrr I can stick in that if I want some more reverb. I would get a vibrato, but I have a hard time justifying any kind of pitch-shifting that's not even stranger than the ring thing. And a two knob tremelo is a little more basic than I was looking for in a trem, but it tantalizingly blue.

Copilot stuff is crazy! I got in on both the tourbox's and they're nuts, I hope he'll tour some of his nonfuzz creations. His pedals that look the most promising to me are the gyroscope, the telescope, the dubscope (wouldn't fit in this spot but it's beautiful anyway), and that latest looper thing. I was just wondering how the gyroscope compared with that proteus?

[julius_deane]

I really liked my memory toy when I had it, i just remember it disappearing whenever I turned on the fuzz, have you found it to cut the dry signal volume without boosting the delayed signal after about 11? I really loved the modulation and oscillation it had though

Haven't used the MT, but my Memory Boy sounds great with my AB-Synth. I use th MB in my amp's effects loop. I'm again thinking about just getting another one. I don't know such a versatile analog pedal for that price.

[mathias]

Haven't used the MT, but my Memory Boy sounds great with my AB-Synth. I use th MB in my amp's effects loop. I'm again thinking about just getting another one. I don't know such a versatile analog pedal for that price.

Can't wait to try my new AB-Synth with my analog delay Fuzz solos are really the only reason I keep delay on my board, I can't play clean Sunny Day Real Estate-style chord arpeggios at all.

[dubkitty]

this is a particularly interesting thread for me, because i'm also looking for the Cool Box That I Don't Know What It Is Yet and need something that requires a minimum of board space. i've thought about some of the ideas presented here. these have been my takes; don't take any of these opinions as determinative:

to me the Pareidolia, though it sounds incredibly cool, is the epitome of the effect you'll use on one song a night. it's a great sound, but what are you going to use it on?

i find the Proteus to be too limited. if it did a little bit more--if it would sweep both ways on the envelope filter and you could select the waveform on the step filter rather than it randomising--it would be the business. but then it would be expensive enough that you'd just as soon buy the Prometheus.

if i were into that type of sound, i would totally buy the Heliotrope. there's a Burgerman YouTube video which is the BEST. DEMO. EVER. things are done to the theme from "Love Story." terrible, wonderful things.

the problem with the teensy tremolos--not just the Malekko, but also the Lovepedal--is that there's a pivotal adjustment (depth on one, wave shape on the other) that has to be made via an internal trim pot. this makes them kind of useless if you want to do more than one thing with your tremolo box.

i like some of the Copilot stuff a lot, the Dubscope in particular. the drawback i see with Copilot gear is that it seems designed for a kind of stylized lo-fi sound, which is great if you want that sound but not so great otherwise.

[01010111]

I agree Copilot does have a lo-fi, old-time radio kind of feel. But with a looper that's kindof what I want, I have an rc-2 lying around that I can use if I want high quality, and with a lot of his stuff it works for the better as far as I can tell.

And that's how I feel about most filter pedals. Most of them do one trick, and it's a good trick, but I'd like them to do more. What intrigued me about the proteus, and the gyroscope, is the random almost arppegiatic sound it they have. I think the gyrscope would be more versatile, soundwise, but would be harder to incorporate when playing with other people.

I'm more or less looking for something that will push me farther as a guitarist. I guess you could say I'm looking for that new sound...
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