Metal/Metalcore Bass Amp

[Here Lies The Fire]

Hey my friend is getting a new bass amp and possibly bass also (he has a Gibson "The Grabber")

I don't know much about bass stuff but he really wants to get into playing bass.
He has a SUPER shitty amp right now so he needs something punchy and well "metalcore"

Is this good?
http://www.musicgoround.com/detail.aspx?id=945381

http://www.musicgoround.com/detail.aspx?id=1046802

[Mudfuzz]

Ok here is the deal with bass amps...

get the biggest, most powerful, loudest one you can that you like the sound of. If you get one that isn't loud enough life will suck ass where if it is too loud you have one of those volume knob thingys. and for a SS amp anything under 400watts to me is a waste of time so that one "should" be ok.....

I don't have any experience with the Kuston stuff so as to sound I have no idea.

[Here Lies The Fire]

Okay what about a DI box and how do they work and Uggggh he has around 1,800.00 to spend and is REALLY serious about this...so any rig ideas would be helpful.

[Mudfuzz]

Di: I LOVE the radial JDI, not cheap but damn it's good!

Ideas at this point I will ask have you guys thought of finding a used ampeg SVTCL I've seen them for under $1000 before, killer fucking amp if you like big tube amps and all.. Oh for better build quality you want older, one hint other then the sr NO. is the high and Deep buttons will be black instead of white

[Here Lies The Fire]

But he also needs a cab...and any pedals?

[Mudfuzz]

Cabs.. There are tons of good ones out there, SWR, GK, Ampeg, ect ect. he has to work out stuff like does he like 10s or 12s or 15s ect or mixed, a lot of guys love the whole 4x10 or 8X10 thing which I can't stand I use a 2x12 and a 1x18 for most things. I also love old two 2x15 cabs like sunns.

Pedals... what sounds does he actually want

[MaxMaps]

After playing bass heavy metal / metalcore for years you want two things.

You want a cold sounding amp, nothing too warm because warm is nothing I wanted in the sound mix. Ampeg does this to a T , so does any of the Gallen Kruger amps.

Second you want it to have enough power to present in the mix, epically if you are running with two guitar players running full blast.

If I had some cash I would go with an Ampeg SVT4 and a matching cab with it.

[Here Lies The Fire]

Not including a new bass and pedals he would really like to keep it under 1,200...

but seriously MexMaps it sounds like you know quite a bit about the sound we are searching for.
idk what the hell a DI box is even for. xDDD

[Mudfuzz]

so you can send a signal to the pa...

[Here Lies The Fire]

so you can send a signal to the pa...

weird...that's what I thought but how would you manipulate the sound? with pedals and such?

[Mudfuzz]

[quote="MaxMaps"]You want a cold sounding amp, nothing too warm because warm is nothing I wanted in the sound mix. /quote]
Yeah I am not the best person to ask for this sound... my sound is based on being the exact opposite of that sound... all metal the bands I liked growing up I thought the bass sounded like tinfoil I wanted big and phat.

[Mudfuzz]

so you can send a signal to the pa...

weird...that's what I thought but how would you manipulate the sound? with pedals and such?

Yeah... it sucks some times because some sound guys want to run you though a cheap DI to the PA before your amp so the the audience hears you through this shitty box instead of your fucking amp that cost a lot of money and which you have based your sounds around

[Here Lies The Fire]

(His FAVORITE BAND)
Five Finger Death Punch - Matt Snell Bass Rig Gear and Equipment

Bass
- Ibanez SR prestige 1005 5-string
- Ibanez SR750

Amps and Cabinets
- Kustom Groove 1300
- Kustom 2x15 and 4x10 cabs
- 80's SWR amps

AND I found these...which are VERY close.
http://www.musicgoround.com/detail.aspx?id=945381
http://www.musicgoround.com/detail.aspx?id=1046802

[Mudfuzz]

might be the way to go then... I think if at all possible though he should go and try the stuff first because no matter what gear is used NO one will sound the same.

Aslo just because that is what the guy uses on tour does not mean that that is what was used in the studio and that very well could have been direct

I have not listened to them much as I hate that version of Bad company [I hate the original too] that they play on the radio twice a day here

[Here Lies The Fire]

another of his favorite bands...(aka a sound he would like)


Bullet for My Valentine - Jason James Bass Rig Gear and Equipment

Basses
- Ernie Ball Music Man Bongo bass guitars (black)
- Sandberg Terra Basses

Amps and Cabinets
- Ampeg SVT Classic
Previously:
- Mesa Boogie Big Block Amps
- Mesa Boogie 8x10 and 4x10 cabinets

Effects and more
- MXR Bass DI+ M-80 box

- Boss bass boosting pedal (not sure exactly which pedal this is)
- Avalon Direct Box