so im just throwing out discussion
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0n8_kT5Wi4[/youtube]
now these tank reverbs sound amazing to me super springy super wet and trashy sounding and it got me thinking
that i know theres lots of pedals out there that emulate spring reverb but not enough to satisfy me
so from there i was thinking about possibilities of building something as springy sounding and wet as the fender using legit tanks like big mofos
it would still be a legit large unit but in a solid state wise?
now i dont know much but what goes on inside wise like circuit wise obvious theres power and so forth yada yada
still being able to kick it aswel
i dunno lets talk !
Spring Reverb Pedal With Legit Tank
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Re: Spring Reverb Pedal With Legit Tank
Problem lies with pedals with spring tanks in them, if ya kick them when you turn them on, they go crash.
Otherwise, other than pedal size constraints, perfectly doable and been done before, get yo search on.
Fender spring sound in a pedal though, you may aswell go rack or cabinet in the end as it's gunna be fucking massive, you can make smaller pedals though for a bit of spring sound.
Otherwise, other than pedal size constraints, perfectly doable and been done before, get yo search on.
Fender spring sound in a pedal though, you may aswell go rack or cabinet in the end as it's gunna be fucking massive, you can make smaller pedals though for a bit of spring sound.
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Re: Spring Reverb Pedal With Legit Tank
Modular would be the way to go. Have the spring tank on the back of the pedalboard or something (or off the board). The man controls and circuitry could easily be in a small pedal, with cables going to the tank.
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Re: Spring Reverb Pedal With Legit Tank
http://www.tubesandmore.com/scripts/fox ... ECH_REVERB
Check this out
Studies the tech involved and shows both the circuit and the drive and recovery circuits that make it work in an amp
Idealy you could use a true bypass Looper pedal: like a smolski tech kit: http://www.smolskitech.com/
And just keep the Reverb unit in the loop.
It would still be pretty sensitive to surroundings and even some magnetic fields: I am sure it is possible
You can buy the actual reverb tanks at amazon http://www.amazon.com/Accutronics-8AB2A ... B0043FJWUW
But you need a drive circuit and recovery circuit to make the whole thing work.
If the pedal itself Contained the drive circuit and recovery circuit and had outs you could put whatever reberb tank you wanted somewhere safe and then switch them to get the reverb affect you wanted.
I am throwing this out as an additional quesiton: If the drive circuit and recovery circuit are essentially amplifying the signal provided by the springs, would it possible to drive the Reverb unit with say a tube overdrive pedal and then recover it with a second pedal?
I think I have a spring tank in my garage, I may have to try this!
Check this out
Studies the tech involved and shows both the circuit and the drive and recovery circuits that make it work in an amp
Idealy you could use a true bypass Looper pedal: like a smolski tech kit: http://www.smolskitech.com/
And just keep the Reverb unit in the loop.
It would still be pretty sensitive to surroundings and even some magnetic fields: I am sure it is possible
You can buy the actual reverb tanks at amazon http://www.amazon.com/Accutronics-8AB2A ... B0043FJWUW
But you need a drive circuit and recovery circuit to make the whole thing work.
If the pedal itself Contained the drive circuit and recovery circuit and had outs you could put whatever reberb tank you wanted somewhere safe and then switch them to get the reverb affect you wanted.
I am throwing this out as an additional quesiton: If the drive circuit and recovery circuit are essentially amplifying the signal provided by the springs, would it possible to drive the Reverb unit with say a tube overdrive pedal and then recover it with a second pedal?
I think I have a spring tank in my garage, I may have to try this!
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Re: Spring Reverb Pedal With Legit Tank
May be way off on this but based on below: A boost pedal and and EQ might do this?
Drive Circuit Design Considerations:3
Use an input high-pass filter to compensate for the input coil's inductive reactance. It is recommended that the driver be a current or voltage source with an output rising 6 dB/octave with increasing frequency.
Drive the input coil as hard as possible without overdriving (exceeding core saturation).
Avoid DC currents through the coil for maximum headroom before core saturation.
In general, a current source is equivalent to a voltage source with a resistor in series.
In practice, the resistor should have a value greater than 5 times the 1kHz impedance of the input transducer.
The voltage required will be:
Vmax = Imax(R + Z)
Recovery Circuit Design Considerations:3
The output signal from the tank should be about 1 to 5 mV. Use a preamp circuit with flat frequency response for recovery.
The recovery circuit's input impedance should be high enough to prevent roll-off due to the output coil's inductive reactance. For example, the 10,000 Ω at 1kHz coil appears as a 60,000 O source at 6kHz.<
Use an output high-pass filter with a 50 Hz to 100 Hz cutoff to lessen the effects of rumble when the unit is mechanically shocked.
Drive Circuit Design Considerations:3
Use an input high-pass filter to compensate for the input coil's inductive reactance. It is recommended that the driver be a current or voltage source with an output rising 6 dB/octave with increasing frequency.
Drive the input coil as hard as possible without overdriving (exceeding core saturation).
Avoid DC currents through the coil for maximum headroom before core saturation.
In general, a current source is equivalent to a voltage source with a resistor in series.
In practice, the resistor should have a value greater than 5 times the 1kHz impedance of the input transducer.
The voltage required will be:
Vmax = Imax(R + Z)
Recovery Circuit Design Considerations:3
The output signal from the tank should be about 1 to 5 mV. Use a preamp circuit with flat frequency response for recovery.
The recovery circuit's input impedance should be high enough to prevent roll-off due to the output coil's inductive reactance. For example, the 10,000 Ω at 1kHz coil appears as a 60,000 O source at 6kHz.<
Use an output high-pass filter with a 50 Hz to 100 Hz cutoff to lessen the effects of rumble when the unit is mechanically shocked.
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Re: Spring Reverb Pedal With Legit Tank
sorry not trying to crap all over your topic just found more information that seemed helpful
http://sound.westhost.com/project34.htm
http://sound.westhost.com/project34.htm
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