snipelfritz wrote:Achtane wrote:I'm feeling conflicted about these guys.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUbjNuqJT7o[/youtube]
I'm trying to see them as musical geniuses who barely stay within the confines of a song...or...something. That's what people say about them anyway.
I also kind of appreciate how they're making noise music on saxophones. However I don't like it.
But the main part of me is saying "what the fuck is this shit". And I'm having a hard time changing that.
Maybe I'm too dumb to appreciate it or something. It's ANNOYING. Listening to them kills any "YEAH AWESOME MUSIC TIME" buzz I had.
I don't know about genius, but that was still pretty awesome. It's like Last Exit, Sun Ra and John Coltrane did acid together. The drummer was pretty sweet. Kind of a less noisy version of the guy from Lightning Bolt.
Free-Noise-Jazz(what I'm declaring this as) is a pretty acquired taste. You don't like it right out, but if you ease yourself into the genre, you learn to appreciate the proper aspects of it. In the past I may have said some people are too dumb to get it, but I certainly disagree with that now. Part of that appreciation simply is that they're doing something that crazy. Some people would call that pretentious or shallow, but is it any worse than liking a song because it follows a certain formula that simply
feels right to you like most pop music? It's the same sort of appreciation, just favoring opposite sides of the spectrum.
This has inspired me to listen to The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra Volume 1. It's also good chill-out music before bed.
I see what you mean. I came on a little too strong there. I don't totally dislike them or anything...it was being amplified irrationally. It'll still take some getting used to and maybe I'll never really get into them, but I was laying it on.
Sometimes when considering this kind of music or even really "out there" art, among other things, I think...that in the back of my head I dream up this stereotype of a "person who would be into this" and immediately feel against that. Kind of like thinking "oh man, people on the Internet are gonna eat this shit up, they'll say they like it to be cool but really can't even appreciate it" so then I automatically try to devalue it in order to distance myself from that. And then I don't even give it a chance.
Kind of like opposing the stereotypical audiophile. Or what people think of as a "hipster". Or like a few years ago when everyone was really into mocking the "soccer mom"...uh...construct. It is also pretty easy to call something "pretentious"...however blurry the lines may be.
This probably looks weird. I feel that I can't fully express my thoughts in writing (because my writing skill is limited), so they appear fragmented and differ from what I'm actually trying to say. Anyway, I do try my best to have an open mind, especially towards music and art. Sometimes I get stupid though. I have to remind myself to give everything a shot. So thanks for not yelling at me about that post.