slightly sprawling amp post: Fender, Roland, Quilter content

[coldbrightsunlight]

Haha yea I have been summoned. Guitar in that recording is 100% the Quilter 201 into a Marshall 4x10. Fuzz is probably arc flash but I'm less sure about that

Yeah I reiterate what dos says. I think it sounds great clean, better with a compressor in front. I play at apartment volumes through a 1x12 most days and it's nice, sounds reeeaaaally cool loud. Stays clean forever but it can get decent overdrive if you crank the input gain, with my LP humbuckers I can get like 70s rock sort of gain out of it which sounds cool but 90% of the time i use it super clean with gain pedals.

I can't rave about it enough as a clean pedal platform honestly. It is light and has a cute little carry bag so I can carry my whole rig in one go! And it is LOUD.

I think the 201 is discontinued? I'm sure some people won't like the non-traditional eq but I actually find it really useful. I also run bass and synths through it and it handles those nicely too

[Errant Tiger]

Haha yea I have been summoned. Guitar in that recording is 100% the Quilter 201 into a Marshall 4x10. Fuzz is probably arc flash but I'm less sure about that

Yeah I reiterate what dos says. I think it sounds great clean, better with a compressor in front. I play at apartment volumes through a 1x12 most days and it's nice, sounds reeeaaaally cool loud. Stays clean forever but it can get decent overdrive if you crank the input gain, with my LP humbuckers I can get like 70s rock sort of gain out of it which sounds cool but 90% of the time i use it super clean with gain pedals.

I can't rave about it enough as a clean pedal platform honestly. It is light and has a cute little carry bag so I can carry my whole rig in one go! And it is LOUD.

I think the 201 is discontinued? I'm sure some people won't like the non-traditional eq but I actually find it really useful. I also run bass and synths through it and it handles those nicely too

Thanks for chiming in! I think I need to get my hands & ears on some more Quilters. One of my local shops has a bunch of the blocks/docks, but no combos, which I'm also interested in.

[fcknoise]

Here is a list of potential points:
- Wasn't there one of those ampeg GVTs in BST not too long ago? They seem kinda cool
- I've seen a lot of people really like the tiny traynor combos, TS-20 I think they are called. I just got a traynor 50w head and it slays, but obviously that says nothing about those combos.
- I played a silverface fender princeton 1x10 combo that was seriously so good. Complementing the swamp I am sure.
- The swampiness might be due to the speaker?
- What I would give to buy amps in america as opposed to anywhere else in the world.
- If you like the sound of a Twin but want solid state I have heard from several people that the Randall Orange Stripe/commander series amps are a solid state alternative. I have the RG90a head and while I haven't A/B'd it to a twin I can say they are great amps and not too expensive. They might be a tad large though

[Errant Tiger]

Here is a list of potential points:
- Wasn't there one of those ampeg GVTs in BST not too long ago? They seem kinda cool
- I've seen a lot of people really like the tiny traynor combos, TS-20 I think they are called. I just got a traynor 50w head and it slays, but obviously that says nothing about those combos.
- I played a silverface fender princeton 1x10 combo that was seriously so good. Complementing the swamp I am sure.
- The swampiness might be due to the speaker?
- What I would give to buy amps in america as opposed to anywhere else in the world.
- If you like the sound of a Twin but want solid state I have heard from several people that the Randall Orange Stripe/commander series amps are a solid state alternative. I have the RG90a head and while I haven't A/B'd it to a twin I can say they are great amps and not too expensive. They might be a tad large though

All fascinating points! I haven't thought about Traynors at all, though I know folks love them. I think until earlier in this thread I had been hung up on the need for headphones, but I realized that a) I no longer live with someone with severe noise sensitivity, and b) my landlord (whose house my apartment is attached to) has not complained once about my average volume level, and so headphone capability might not be an issue after all.

Swampiness might've been the wrong word. It's a dark amp, and I love it for that, unless I'm playing my Les Paul, which gets too muddy, but I rarely play the LP, so it's moot.

I've seen those Randalls around, actually, but not while on this particular hunt. I do like a 1x15. It would all depend on how it does at apartment volumes.

There's one local shop I haven't been to yet - traditionally the one with the crappiest (and yet sometimes surprising) selection. Maybe this weekend.

[D.o.S.]

Traynor's are really killer for what they are: the Canadian Peavey. They're all over the place and cheap as chips if you go a little further north towards Montreal & Quebec, or at least they used to be.

[fcknoise]

Here is a list of potential points:
- Wasn't there one of those ampeg GVTs in BST not too long ago? They seem kinda cool
- I've seen a lot of people really like the tiny traynor combos, TS-20 I think they are called. I just got a traynor 50w head and it slays, but obviously that says nothing about those combos.
- I played a silverface fender princeton 1x10 combo that was seriously so good. Complementing the swamp I am sure.
- The swampiness might be due to the speaker?
- What I would give to buy amps in america as opposed to anywhere else in the world.
- If you like the sound of a Twin but want solid state I have heard from several people that the Randall Orange Stripe/commander series amps are a solid state alternative. I have the RG90a head and while I haven't A/B'd it to a twin I can say they are great amps and not too expensive. They might be a tad large though

All fascinating points! I haven't thought about Traynors at all, though I know folks love them. I think until earlier in this thread I had been hung up on the need for headphones, but I realized that a) I no longer live with someone with severe noise sensitivity, and b) my landlord (whose house my apartment is attached to) has not complained once about my average volume level, and so headphone capability might not be an issue after all.

Swampiness might've been the wrong word. It's a dark amp, and I love it for that, unless I'm playing my Les Paul, which gets too muddy, but I rarely play the LP, so it's moot.

I've seen those Randalls around, actually, but not while on this particular hunt. I do like a 1x15. It would all depend on how it does at apartment volumes.

There's one local shop I haven't been to yet - traditionally the one with the crappiest (and yet sometimes surprising) selection. Maybe this weekend.

The TS-20 is a smaaaalll combo, and if you are in the business for that then you could also go Vox Pathfinder.

The shop with the crappiest gear might very well be where you find an old randall commander tbh. I am playing mine through a 1x15 and it is quite nice. Since it is Solid state is sounds pretty much the same, except that it always sounds better to push air.

[Errant Tiger]

Here is a list of potential points:
- Wasn't there one of those ampeg GVTs in BST not too long ago? They seem kinda cool
- I've seen a lot of people really like the tiny traynor combos, TS-20 I think they are called. I just got a traynor 50w head and it slays, but obviously that says nothing about those combos.
- I played a silverface fender princeton 1x10 combo that was seriously so good. Complementing the swamp I am sure.
- The swampiness might be due to the speaker?
- What I would give to buy amps in america as opposed to anywhere else in the world.
- If you like the sound of a Twin but want solid state I have heard from several people that the Randall Orange Stripe/commander series amps are a solid state alternative. I have the RG90a head and while I haven't A/B'd it to a twin I can say they are great amps and not too expensive. They might be a tad large though

All fascinating points! I haven't thought about Traynors at all, though I know folks love them. I think until earlier in this thread I had been hung up on the need for headphones, but I realized that a) I no longer live with someone with severe noise sensitivity, and b) my landlord (whose house my apartment is attached to) has not complained once about my average volume level, and so headphone capability might not be an issue after all.

Swampiness might've been the wrong word. It's a dark amp, and I love it for that, unless I'm playing my Les Paul, which gets too muddy, but I rarely play the LP, so it's moot.

I've seen those Randalls around, actually, but not while on this particular hunt. I do like a 1x15. It would all depend on how it does at apartment volumes.

There's one local shop I haven't been to yet - traditionally the one with the crappiest (and yet sometimes surprising) selection. Maybe this weekend.

The TS-20 is a smaaaalll combo, and if you are in the business for that then you could also go Vox Pathfinder.

The shop with the crappiest gear might very well be where you find an old randall commander tbh. I am playing mine through a 1x15 and it is quite nice. Since it is Solid state is sounds pretty much the same, except that it always sounds better to push air.

After I posted that I realized that it was in fact that shop where I saw that Randall like five years ago. I wonder what treasures I will see there later in the week...

[ognoy]

I got a Quilter 101 Mini and I love it.
I use it live and when recording. Small, light weight, loud and sounds great.
Speaking of cheap, tiny SS-heads, I also got a TC BAM200. Sounds a little more "sterile" than the Quilter, but it sounds good with pedals and is loud enough for my use.
My live rig is those two heads in stereo with a 412 and a 115. Got a Traynor YBA-1 as well, but that one stays in the studio now.

AND I got a Traynor TS-25 combo which I love, but it is not as "all-round" as the Quilter.

[Seance]

I have heard some guitarists use a Fender Rumble 200 bass amp with some good results.
Might be affordable option for stereo amp setup.

I'd love to get a Quilter. They aren't exactly cheap or readily available in Canada. There
are Traynors floating around. But for several years I've had a Lab Series L7. A bit big,
but sounds great. Reverb doesn't always work...but other than that it's great. The
semi-parametric Mids control is fantastic. Tames feedback on acoustic guitar or can
make a fuzz pedal almost sound like a new fuzz pedal.

I haven't done much in terms of stereo amp setups. Different "amp flavors" for each
side can add a certain something for a finite listening space (home, recording as opposed
to live space/bar/etc.).

This is a primitive in-room improvisation that gives a sense of what the L7 sounds like with
two different overdrives (Barber and Rat). I did this as a "practice" session using a simplistic
build-a-loop technique with a Boss RC-3 the day before a live performance that for some
reason I didn't decide to record.

Crap used (Airedales not included):
Godin Session
Barber Dual UnLimited
ProCo Rat
Boss RC-3
Boss FRV-1
Lab Series L7
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFsUF5qvHN0[/youtube]

[Errant Tiger]

I have heard some guitarists use a Fender Rumble 200 bass amp with some good results.
Might be affordable option for stereo amp setup.

I'd love to get a Quilter. They aren't exactly cheap or readily available in Canada. There
are Traynors floating around. But for several years I've had a Lab Series L7. A bit big,
but sounds great. Reverb doesn't always work...but other than that it's great. The
semi-parametric Mids control is fantastic. Tames feedback on acoustic guitar or can
make a fuzz pedal almost sound like a new fuzz pedal.

I haven't done much in terms of stereo amp setups. Different "amp flavors" for each
side can add a certain something for a finite listening space (home, recording as opposed
to live space/bar/etc.).

This is a primitive in-room improvisation that gives a sense of what the L7 sounds like with
two different overdrives (Barber and Rat). I did this as a "practice" session using a simplistic
build-a-loop technique with a Boss RC-3 the day before a live performance that for some
reason I didn't decide to record.

Crap used (Airedales not included):
Godin Session
Barber Dual UnLimited
ProCo Rat
Boss RC-3
Boss FRV-1
Lab Series L7
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFsUF5qvHN0[/youtube]

Thanks, that was a lot of fun! The L7 sounds pretty good. I've been curious about those Labs (as opposed to Airedales ) - good rep, hard to come by.

[John Matrix]

I use a Quilter Mini 101. Great clean sound and a ton of volume. I use it for rehearsals in a loud doom band and I don't even have to turn it up that high. I don't use it for shows but I bring it as a backup and I don't think there would be any problems.

The only issues I have with it aren't really problems, just differences. My main amp is a Peavey VTM 60...totally different character, tube, etc. Basically, my pedal settings and the way I use the pedals has to change when I switch amps. At first I thought..."oh man my pedals sound like shit through this" but I just needed to change things around and it works fine.

Anyway, I'd def buy it again but I'd probably get one of the models with a more traditional EQ. The tri-Q is not super versatile and it can be hard to find a spot in a really dense live mix.

[Seance]

Thanks, that was a lot of fun! The L7 sounds pretty good. I've been curious about those Labs (as opposed to Airedales ) - good rep, hard to come by.

I bought the Lab Series L7 about 9 years ago from a jazz guitarist who said that
he bought it brand new. So it looked great when I bought it and still does.

Trying to find a specific used amps is a bit like fishing. Basically just another
name for waiting around while drinking beer.

[K2000]

What about the Lunchbox? I know people who like them.

[Errant Tiger]

What about the Lunchbox? I know people who like them.

I tried a Club and it sounded good but a little tinny; I fear the Lunchbox would be more so, to my ears/for my needs.

[coldbrightsunlight]

I use a Quilter Mini 101. Great clean sound and a ton of volume. I use it for rehearsals in a loud doom band and I don't even have to turn it up that high. I don't use it for shows but I bring it as a backup and I don't think there would be any problems.

The only issues I have with it aren't really problems, just differences. My main amp is a Peavey VTM 60...totally different character, tube, etc. Basically, my pedal settings and the way I use the pedals has to change when I switch amps. At first I thought..."oh man my pedals sound like shit through this" but I just needed to change things around and it works fine.

Anyway, I'd def buy it again but I'd probably get one of the models with a more traditional EQ. The tri-Q is not super versatile and it can be hard to find a spot in a really dense live mix.

Yeah I think that's fair about the tri-Q probably. I'm using it for bass rehearsals and in power trio setups where there's room in the mix. Also depends on your guitar/tone. I think it would cut through great in a busy mix for cleans but I could see it being a bigger problem with multiple distorted guitars for example like I guess you guys are doing.

Those labs are supposed to be great!! But yeah potentially kinda hard to find these days