Shallow Water vs...

[ALLisNOISE]

Maybe the Boss MD500?

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THIS! I was killing time at work today and was unexpectedly wowed by the “scanner” mode on the Vibrato!
It’s not random, per se, but it has input volume control over depth, and if the editing capabilities are as deep as the DD500, you can get pretty crazy with it!

[tremolo3]

Maybe the Boss MD500?

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THIS! I was killing time at work today and was unexpectedly wowed by the “scanner” mode on the Vibrato!
It’s not random, per se, but it has input volume control over depth, and if the editing capabilities are as deep as the DD500, you can get pretty crazy with it!

There are enough "assign" controls to make it sound random until a captcha realizes it's just semi-random.

[D.o.S.]

Shallow water is very, very subtle. The transparent overdrive of modulation. I personally didn't like it at all, but I know some people swear by it.

My boi.

[mcatano]

I also had a shallow water for a while and sold it. I thought it sounded really nice on its own but I had a really hard time getting it to sit nicely in a mix with anything else. I think if you're doing solo loop/soundscape-y stuff it's a really nice effect; I much prefer it on its own to the gen loss.

[Ghost Hip]

I really like the shallow water near the end of my guitar chain set 100% wet. I had great results making count to five or MOOD background loops for a solo singer/guitar performance. The way it modulates the background ambient loops with the clean guitar really suited what I was doing. It adds a lot of character to a solo performance, for me at least.

However, I am not a big fan of using it with a synth set up. The LPG surprisingly doesn't sound the way I'd like it to surprisingly.

Also want to note I bought the Alexander Super Neomatic pedal hoping it would replace the shallow water and be able to do more, but it didn't really capture the same vibe. Great pedal though. I'd just look towards other lo-fi/tape warble type pedals i that's what you're going for.

[goroth]

I also use it end of chain 100% wet.

I don't get the LPG. I'm assuming I have it set up wrong, but it doesn't seem all that dynamic. It's just degrees of wet blanket.

[coldbrightsunlight]

That was my experience of the lpg as well

[sylnau]

I'm a big fan of Fairfield stuff... but I never understand this one and sold it. It doesn't do much for the price paid.

[Cody_Pole]

What about the Instant Lo Fi Junky?

[Benn Roe]

I also had no luck with the Shallow Water. It sounded great in demos, but basically did nothing with my setup. The effect was almost indiscernable at virtually every setting. I have a Generation Loss, which works a lot better for me, though I struggled with it until trading out the standard version for the Chase Bliss chassis. The controls just work better for me, and it dealt with the volume-drop issues.

[Dowi]

Shouldn't the Pladask Romferd be something like that too? Never had one but from the demos i heard i'd put it into the realm of random modulators.

[niftyprose]

Thx everyone. After much thought and some reviews of my idiosyncratic signal chain I'm probably going with Doug Tuttle's Random Phase Vibrato (assuming I can get one). The RPV [has just arrived] on the Mid-Fi site but has one big knob, making it that much more versatile than the nothing-but-a-footswitch Random Vibrato, However, since I suspect I will hanker after the Fairfield's LPF, I'd like to offer particular thanks for the Zoom tweak idea. Plan B, f'sure.

[voerking]

i, too, found the Shallow Water too dark...although i wish i had kept it, because i can see using it when mixing recorded tracks, even though it didn't work for me as a guitar pedal.

The Aqueduct has a lot of cool sounds, but the latency is really a bummer for me.

[coldbrightsunlight]

It has a latency in the wet signal? That really sucks.

[voerking]

It has a latency in the wet signal? That really sucks.

yes. it's especially obvious/annoying when using the footswitch in momentary mode. there's always a hiccup as the pedal catches up. you can hear it in the demos...listen to this one around 7:25:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ogou7JIB0I[/youtube]