Swirly effect

[sylnau]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78YpvJI6eSw[/youtube]

What you guys think is used to create the swirly effect on the guitar in this song? Tremolo? Vibrato? Other?

[3205]

Kinda hard to hear but I'd guess low feedback/resonance flanger.

[crochambeau]

Sounds like a Leslie to me.

[echorec]

Sounds like a Leslie to me.

I would agree that it's most likely a Leslie. Considering the record was put out in 2006, it's likely an actual rotating speaker system. Although the Hughes & Kettner Rotosphere emulator was a popular choice at the time. (the Korg G4 was also in production)

To mimic Leslie tones, many people use chorus or flanger with a faster rate. So 3205 is not far off.

The biggest difference between a rotating speaker and a modulation pedal is the width & the 3D quality as the speaker moves. (0:27-0:29) That is hard to duplicate with a chorus/flanger.

Here is a 2000s Polychorus trying to mimic a Leslie.

https://youtu.be/_WepUW63bsQ?t=519

[sylnau]

Sounds like a Leslie to me.

I would agree that it's most likely a Leslie. Considering the record was put out in 2006, it's likely an actual rotating speaker system. Although the Hughes & Kettner Rotosphere emulator was a popular choice at the time. (the Korg G4 was also in production)

To mimic Leslie tones, many people use chorus or flanger with a faster rate. So 3205 is not far off.

The biggest difference between a rotating speaker and a modulation pedal is the width & the 3D quality as the speaker moves. (0:27-0:29) That is hard to duplicate with a chorus/flanger.

Here is a 2000s Polychorus trying to mimic a Leslie.

https://youtu.be/_WepUW63bsQ?t=519

I tried that with the Starlight MkII Flanger... but it's too colored and the volume drop too much.

[rfurtkamp]

Near certainly a Leslie there. Could be any one of the decent emulators (first decent was the one in the Lexicon Vortex in the 90s) as well, but given budget, can't see it not being an actual one.

[Jero]

Most likely a leslie...but towards the end there it sounded like maybe the harmonic tremolo from the old Fenders.

[Pepe]

For me that's definitely a tremolo plus a strong chorus. At 6:52 min the chorus is shut off and the tremolo remains.

[Dandolin]

Waits, so going old school would be expected, which favors a rotating speaker of some sort, most likely leslie, but something about the slope of pitch change just doesn't sound quite right, which could mean an emulator.

And I agree, it does have a bit of the "vibe" (pardon the pun) of a *synced* combi of trem and vibrato (whereas the tremming and vibing on a leslie are not really synced). But there is another vintage effect that puts out zactly that vibe....

So, I wouldn't be too surprised to find that it was Joe Gore cranking the vibrato on a Magnatone amp merhumblegrumble [searches for chin beard to stroke pensively]

[repoman]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p76UNOX9CVU[/youtube]


Man these sound so good, they are usually kinda pricey on Reverb though. (I'm guessing this is what was used)

Joe Gore posts quite a bit on thegearpage, maybe ask there? (I'm guessing Gore is playing the rhythm leslie effected part and Ribot is doing the clunky/angular lead stuff)

[crochambeau]

I might be overthinking this, but it would not surprise me if there are layers going on here with multiple modulation sources (some of which are pulled out at times as a dynamic function).

Not at all saying this might be remotely involved in manufacturing that particular sound, but in regards to swirl it's nice to have a source you can point at and say "it can come from either side of the transducer/air pressure-source domain change"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVzvAn8ac4A[/youtube]

I would be delighted to hear someone playing an emulator into an amp that is driving a spinning speaker that is being recorded by another spinning speaker, hell let's make it stereo too.

[Dandolin]

I luvv that vidya

[sylnau]

Sometime it sound like two swirling thing going at the same time (out of sync).
I love my Mid-Fi Electric Yggdrasil... but it's not swirly like that.

[rfurtkamp]

I would be delighted to hear someone playing an emulator into an amp that is driving a spinning speaker that is being recorded by another spinning speaker, hell let's make it stereo too.

Can get something very, very similar with a Lexicon Vortex (morph between two presets and points between).

May not have been what was used, but it'd be my first go-to no questions asked to make that sound.

[sylnau]

Any specefic pedal that can bring me near that sound?