The only factor pedal to ever drop down low on the second hand market is the Modfactor (because it has the temerity to not be Strymon, gasp!) and maybe the Timefactor. Space and PF don't go low because nothing else on the market touches them.
Having played with a number of other pitch shifting devices over the years, I can comfortably say that if I were in your position I would be more than happy to swap out those PS-3's.
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Re: Pitchfactor
First time I saw that sort of deal, but I spotted a Pitchfactor for Modfactor money last week. I wasn’t on the hunt but I had to. Set alerts wherever possible to not miss a fluke low price if you’re looking.
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Re: Pitchfactor
I have seen several going almost as low as the tf and mf (mf ive seen for painfully low prices though), I guess it may be a local thing
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On an unrelated note, the MF is worth it for the Undulator alone.
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Re: Pitchfactor
I got a Pitchfactor recently, so still in the beginning stages of learning it, but I'm disappointed that there's a latency when you engage the pedal, in other words the signal drops out for a fraction of a second.
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Lag in preset switching happens in their racks, too. If you’re running in series, it’s hard, though not necessarily impossible, to avoid.
The classic workaround is to run in parallel via an appropriate loop or mixer with the effect full wet. Change presets and the dry signal continues to pass. (Strymon got the memo and in most of their effects have an analog dry path, which in essence is a basic mixer—kill dry mutes the analog channel.) This isn’t an effective solution for some full wet effects, though—whammy, wah, hard chop tremolo. Also, mixing digital processing with timing latency can do fucked things for some parallel processing that you could do with little fuss fully analog, like using compression in parallel.
Mixer impractical or temporarily out of budget? Sometimes you can get a few switchable sounds within a single algorithm without changing presets. This is why rack nerds are insistent of the ability to use MIDI continuous control (CC) messages and not just program change (PC). Sysex is even better because sometimes it gets you control that CC can’t reach. I’m not yet into these aspects of the PF, but let’s say you have a key change and need to switch the key for a harmony algorithm. Maybe you want to change the intervals, too. Great, don’t change presets, map those settings to appropriate CC with the values that’ll get you the appropriate setting in mind and program your controller to send the right two values on the right CC numbers.
I’m guessing the foot switch assignments in the PF can get you here without MIDI, too.
The classic workaround is to run in parallel via an appropriate loop or mixer with the effect full wet. Change presets and the dry signal continues to pass. (Strymon got the memo and in most of their effects have an analog dry path, which in essence is a basic mixer—kill dry mutes the analog channel.) This isn’t an effective solution for some full wet effects, though—whammy, wah, hard chop tremolo. Also, mixing digital processing with timing latency can do fucked things for some parallel processing that you could do with little fuss fully analog, like using compression in parallel.
Mixer impractical or temporarily out of budget? Sometimes you can get a few switchable sounds within a single algorithm without changing presets. This is why rack nerds are insistent of the ability to use MIDI continuous control (CC) messages and not just program change (PC). Sysex is even better because sometimes it gets you control that CC can’t reach. I’m not yet into these aspects of the PF, but let’s say you have a key change and need to switch the key for a harmony algorithm. Maybe you want to change the intervals, too. Great, don’t change presets, map those settings to appropriate CC with the values that’ll get you the appropriate setting in mind and program your controller to send the right two values on the right CC numbers.
I’m guessing the foot switch assignments in the PF can get you here without MIDI, too.
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Re: Pitchfactor
I havent really thought about the latency. I mean ive noticed it but its not really something that bothered me. I do enjoy the loud CATCHUNK the relay makes however. Btw do you run trails mode or true bypass? Trying relat may help
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