Ring (and/or Balanced) Modulation for the modulator masses
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Have we posted this Ringtone'd thingee here yet?
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…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
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Was just listening to his live album w/ Thos. Morgan.... Kinda sad how few fx are on dat jawn 

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After thinking about it for a couple days, I might try an analog implementation over the weekend. I previously thought that I'd need four parallel analog ringmod circuits controlled digitally to do what I want it to do, because currently I digitally branch-out and ringmod four times the signal and sum it before turning it analog again. But maybe I can get away with summing the four carrier oscillators and doing the ringmod only once instead, via analog multiplication.Dandolin wrote:Lurve quadrature, and that is a great sounding implementationI'm in the have-it-all ringmod voting bloc. Some things are more actualizable in digi, and that's ok with me.
Later: this is making a great workdrone on "infinite" repeat
I have an ad633 and tc1044 lying around so maybe I'll try it. That charge pump isn't the greatest but it's only a proof of concept. If it works I'll order some lt1054s.
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Yeah 1044s just need a regulator to make sure they don't get over 9v supply from my limited experience. I'm excited to hear it dude, love some analog circuits.
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Win win
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…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
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There's a few Ringworms on reverb.. always wanted one of those pedals
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…...........................…psychic vampire. wrote:The important take away from this thread: Taoism and Ring Modulators go together?
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Well the analog implementation is working fine and dandy! Different sound characteristic, but equally fine. And importantly massive headroom. Running it on +15/-15.cloudscapes wrote:ad633
Also added quadrature phase shift control. By default quadrature works by modulating each osc from the value every 90 degrees of the LFO, but I added a control that lets me shift it between 0 and 180 degrees for the 4 oscs. With 90 being the center position for the knob. Less than 90 and I get bursty sounds. More than 90 and the last osc starts overlapping the first's 'timing', which is really cool. Got some neat 3/4 gong beat going, with the first gong being a double frequency.
I normally hate working with 'high' voltage. I inadvertently shielded my eyes and backed away a little when plugged in the breadboarded 30v range charge pump for the first time.
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That white mooger is a friggin’ beaut!!
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cloudscapes wrote:Well the analog implementation is working fine and dandy! Different sound characteristic, but equally fine. And importantly massive headroom. Running it on +15/-15.cloudscapes wrote:ad633
Also added quadrature phase shift control. By default quadrature works by modulating each osc from the value every 90 degrees of the LFO, but I added a control that lets me shift it between 0 and 180 degrees for the 4 oscs. With 90 being the center position for the knob. Less than 90 and I get bursty sounds. More than 90 and the last osc starts overlapping the first's 'timing', which is really cool. Got some neat 3/4 gong beat going, with the first gong being a double frequency.
I normally hate working with 'high' voltage. I inadvertently shielded my eyes and backed away a little when plugged in the breadboarded 30v range charge pump for the first time.




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All praises be to Lord Analog!cloudscapes wrote:Well the analog implementation is working fine and dandy! Different sound characteristic, but equally fine. And importantly massive headroom. Running it on +15/-15.cloudscapes wrote:ad633
Also added quadrature phase shift control. By default quadrature works by modulating each osc from the value every 90 degrees of the LFO, but I added a control that lets me shift it between 0 and 180 degrees for the 4 oscs. With 90 being the center position for the knob. Less than 90 and I get bursty sounds. More than 90 and the last osc starts overlapping the first's 'timing', which is really cool. Got some neat 3/4 gong beat going, with the first gong being a double frequency.
I normally hate working with 'high' voltage. I inadvertently shielded my eyes and backed away a little when plugged in the breadboarded 30v range charge pump for the first time.
Are you getting your 30 volt swing from a transformer? Or the 1044 ?
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lt1054, which just arrived yesterday.BetterOffShred wrote: Are you getting your 30 volt swing from a transformer? Or the 1044 ?
the headroom on the ad633 is nicer than I thought! I thought I'd have to add a noise gate but it's pretty quiet when I let the ringmod trail off and palm the strings. no carrier bleed even. I imagine it'll be even better when its off the breadboard and onto a properly ground-fill'ed pcb and in a box. I bought this chip probably 12 years ago and never did anything with it. glad to see it works and isn't a fake.
it's darker than the digital implementation I had earlier (in the video), but thats not a bad thing.
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That is not a bad thing.




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