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i don't think i've seen anyone with good things to say about Warmoth necks in ages now.
what makes Costello a poseur to me isn't that he has differing interests, it's that he was a fairly mainstream writer pre-Ramones-in-London who wrote up a new bunch of songs that could pass for "punk" so he could get signed. isn't that the very definition of cynically producing product?
what makes Costello a poseur to me isn't that he has differing interests, it's that he was a fairly mainstream writer pre-Ramones-in-London who wrote up a new bunch of songs that could pass for "punk" so he could get signed. isn't that the very definition of cynically producing product?
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I suppose this all hinges on whether you think the first record even aims at being punk, which I can't say that I do.dubkitty wrote:what makes Costello a poseur to me isn't that he has differing interests, it's that he was a fairly mainstream writer pre-Ramones-in-London who wrote up a new bunch of songs that could pass for "punk" so he could get signed. isn't that the very definition of cynically producing product?

To be clear I'm not trying to mount some defence of his integrity or anything. I don't think being a "poser" or whatever is a bad thing if you incidentally create great music while doing it - who cares WHY you did it?
Just interested where you're coming from.
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well, for me a defining characteristic of the poseur is that they *don't* create great work due to lack of true conviction and inspired artistry. Costello had some good songs, but always felt contrived to me and IMO disappeared up his own ass sometime in the mid-80s never to be heard from again. and to go back, Patti Smith's pre-hiatus work is nothing *but* contrived.
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here's another controversy: IMO porn sucks. and not in the way you'd like. why hand over your sexual agency to some corrupt information vendor who'll only give you lies in return? porn is the flagship product of the society of the spectacle.
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most everyone who ever made "alt"/"indie"/"punk"/whatever music is a gosh darn poserdubkitty wrote:well, for me a defining characteristic of the poseur is that they *don't* create great work due to lack of true conviction and inspired artistry. Costello had some good songs, but always felt contrived to me and IMO disappeared up his own ass sometime in the mid-80s never to be heard from again. and to go back, Patti Smith's pre-hiatus work is nothing *but* contrived.
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This is the problem with the poser label!dubkitty wrote:well, for me a defining characteristic of the poseur is that they *don't* create great work due to lack of true conviction and inspired artistry. Costello had some good songs, but always felt contrived to me and IMO disappeared up his own ass sometime in the mid-80s never to be heard from again. and to go back, Patti Smith's pre-hiatus work is nothing *but* contrived.
it's basically a fancy way of saying you don't like the band.


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well, no. from Lydon to Lora Logic to MES to This Heat, Henry Rollins, and Hüsker Dü, the punk family tree is downright replete with folks who emphatically didn't try to be anything other than who they were. it's the tourists, the trendseekers that i despise.MechaGodzilla wrote:dubkitty wrote: most everyone who ever made "alt"/"indie"/"punk"/whatever music is a gosh darn poser
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FWIW i also hate the kind of cod-psychedelica that was all the rage c.1968 and pretty much all white-girl attempted R&B singers as well, and for the same reasons. nor can i stand Americans singing in a fake English accent e.g. Robert Pollard.
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ZOMG now I remember that albumJero wrote:Dandolin wrote:Jero wrote: Far away
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Authenticity is overrated.
Let's all sell out.
Let's all sell out.
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you mean the "we [sex pistols] wanted to be on Top of the Pops", butter salesman john lydon?dubkitty wrote:well, no. from Lydon to Lora Logic to MES to This Heat, Henry Rollins, and Hüsker Dü, the punk family tree is downright replete with folks who emphatically didn't try to be anything other than who they were. it's the tourists, the trendseekers that i despise.MechaGodzilla wrote:dubkitty wrote: most everyone who ever made "alt"/"indie"/"punk"/whatever music is a gosh darn poser

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“Authenticity” ... if you can fake that you’ll be a huge success!coldbrightsunlight wrote:Authenticity is overrated.
Let's all sell out.
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Hey that butter was punk af.MechaGodzilla wrote:you mean the "we [sex pistols] wanted to be on Top of the Pops", butter salesman john lydon?dubkitty wrote:well, no. from Lydon to Lora Logic to MES to This Heat, Henry Rollins, and Hüsker Dü, the punk family tree is downright replete with folks who emphatically didn't try to be anything other than who they were. it's the tourists, the trendseekers that i despise.MechaGodzilla wrote:dubkitty wrote: most everyone who ever made "alt"/"indie"/"punk"/whatever music is a gosh darn poser
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