stereo verbzzz: the grab your headphones thread

[systemofameow]

I want to work towards getting a stereo rig put together in the next year or so and I'm thinking of pairing up some type of true stereo reverb with a TC Mimiq for SUPER WIDE TONEZ. So in the interest of (mis)managing my GAS, I thought I'd start a thread geared towards discussing the different types of stereo reverbs available.

At the moment the Supermoon Eclipse looks like a pretty viable option:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fajiAKot_p8[/youtube]

I see a decent amount of folks in the doom crowd rocking various Mr Black verbs on their boards and have heard some good opinions about the Chrome in particular handling fuzz well. I feel like between both sides of the Eclipse that I can cover a lot of the ground I'm looking for in a reverb. The Chrome has some kinda shimmer thing going on and while I usually don't like the shimmer modes on reverbs, the Chrome's doesn't seem as overly offensive to me. The shimmers seem to have a bit of a darker, less sparkly tone and more of a swirling sort of motion to them than other shimmering verbs. I can imagine that the swirling, trebly noises that my Space Echo makes when it's getting hit with a lot of gain would sound fantastic going into the Chrome side.

[lordgalvar]

Not a verb, but a mimiq alternative: RMA Locus.

[odontophobia]

My stereo rig will be running BOSS RV-3 into BOSS DD-7.

RV-3 would be most lit if it ran stereo in but this should suffice.

Assuming I actually run stereo.

[systemofameow]

Not a verb, but a mimiq alternative: RMA Locus.

The website description makes it sound pretty cool so I'm definitely gonna keep my eyes peeled for some demos.

My stereo rig will be running BOSS RV-3 into BOSS DD-7.

RV-3 would be most lit if it ran stereo in but this should suffice.

Assuming I actually run stereo.

RV-6 has dual inputs but i think it does weird things between maintaining your dry stereo signal and summing it to mono to go through the reverb effect. I could be wrong though.

[John Matrix]

The Supermoon Eclipse rules although I dont actually use it in stereo. It can def hang with high gain hot signal, I use it in my effects loop after a lot of distortion and boost. The regular Supermoon settings work well for more subtle ambience and the Chrome setting is more obvious and what I use most of the time. I had a regular Chrome for a few years but upgraded to this for more options and for the pre-set function. I use it as more of a special effect for screaming lead tones and banshee feedback, rather than an always on type of verb.

Also, I think technically it's a modulated reverb, not really a shimmer. So it has that darker, seasick, ghost wobble rather than the chorus of angels sound of most shimmer verbs.

I used it on this song a fair amount. If you skip ahead to about 6 minutes in you can hear it. A clean part, some feedback overdubs, then eventually a distorted lead part:

https://battlehag.bandcamp.com/track/th ... of-silence

[codetocontra]

Really enjoyed the Meris Mercury 7 stereo spread yesterday while listening back to some recordings. Octave up shimmer can be gross, partly because of what it has become and party ear murder, so I recommend the lower octave shimmer. Like praising the underworld, perfect for doom.

Or a Space?

Dwarfcraft is sort of teasing a new reverb, no idea if it is stereo yet, we shall find out next week.

[John Matrix]

Anyone have experience doing a stereo rig like this using 2 heads and one stereo 4x12 cab? How did it go?

[adamajah]

I want to work towards getting a stereo rig put together in the next year or so and I'm thinking of pairing up some type of true stereo reverb with a TC Mimiq for SUPER WIDE TONEZ. So in the interest of (mis)managing my GAS, I thought I'd start a thread geared towards discussing the different types of stereo reverbs available.

At the moment the Supermoon Eclipse looks like a pretty viable option:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fajiAKot_p8[/youtube]

I see a decent amount of folks in the doom crowd rocking various Mr Black verbs on their boards and have heard some good opinions about the Chrome in particular handling fuzz well. I feel like between both sides of the Eclipse that I can cover a lot of the ground I'm looking for in a reverb. The Chrome has some kinda shimmer thing going on and while I usually don't like the shimmer modes on reverbs, the Chrome's doesn't seem as overly offensive to me. The shimmers seem to have a bit of a darker, less sparkly tone and more of a swirling sort of motion to them than other shimmering verbs. I can imagine that the swirling, trebly noises that my Space Echo makes when it's getting hit with a lot of gain would sound fantastic going into the Chrome side.

Putting a stereo rig together over the next year or so makes it sound so complicated. What's your signal chain going to be like?

For me it was as easy as having a stereo neunaber expanse last in my chain and sending it to two different amps. As far as stereo verbs, I've also had the empress and the polymoon, but the expanse won out.

Whatever you do, going stereo is a solid choice... it's so good

[rfurtkamp]

If you're going to go stereo, do yourself a giant, giant, giant favor.

Get a Boss DC-2W, set it on the SDD-320 mode, and press buttons until you are happy.

I keep mine understated (just boring old button one) but...it will never be off.

[adamajah]

That reminds me.. the expanse has a bunch of chorus algos i haven't tried in (((stereo)))

[themeanreds]

Supermoon Eclipse is incredible, so long as you are not looking for springy or "authentic" reverb sounds. For me, it ticks all of the reverb boxes I was looking for: Fantastic tones ranging from a bit of space to interstellar transit, trails on bypass, it's not a gigantic supercomputer with menus for the menus. It also hits some that I didn't know that I wanted, will use rarely, but am digging: Preset, stereo, and it's the first reverb I have tried that has modulation that I like).

I won't use the stereo feature often-I'm too lazy and old to shlep two amps-but it sounded glorious when I tried it, and I look forward to recording with it. The preset feature is also very handy. I don't need 40 different sounds at the ready, but switching between two presets (a mellow, roomy reverb, and the dimed feedback shmear for which I bought the pedal in the first place) is nice.

[popvulture]

OTO BAM!

[systemofameow]

John Matrix and themeanreds are telling me exactly why I wanna come to the party.

Really enjoyed the Meris Mercury 7 stereo spread yesterday while listening back to some recordings. Octave up shimmer can be gross, partly because of what it has become and party ear murder, so I recommend the lower octave shimmer. Like praising the underworld, perfect for doom.

Those Meris products (Merc7 and Polymoon, in particular) sound awesome and I've wondered how they'd work out for heavier music. A friend of mine uses a Merc7 in his doom project, but only for pensive sounding clean parts. I'd love to hear more about how you're using yours.

Putting a stereo rig together over the next year or so makes it sound so complicated. What's your signal chain going to be like?

Haha, it's more the saving up for another amp that's the complicated part. I currently have a guitar build going on and there's always more pedals I want to try but only so much money in my bank account.

My signal chain isn't going to be huge, atm I'm thinking around ten pedals. I've been sourcing parts for a fuzz face build, so after I get that built it'll probably be first in my chain. After that I'm thinking Black Forest > Vibe Machine > Mutron Phasor > Dunwich DA120 > Space Echo > then stereo out of the echo into a Mimiq and whatever reverb I end up with, in whatever order they sound best in. From there it'll go into a EHX 720 looper I picked up recently and then out to the amps. Obviously there will be a tuner in there somewhere.

[adamajah]

Putting a stereo rig together over the next year or so makes it sound so complicated. What's your signal chain going to be like?

Haha, it's more the saving up for another amp that's the complicated part. I currently have a guitar build going on and there's always more pedals I want to try but only so much money in my bank account.

My signal chain isn't going to be huge, atm I'm thinking around ten pedals. I've been sourcing parts for a fuzz face build, so after I get that built it'll probably be first in my chain. After that I'm thinking Black Forest > Vibe Machine > Mutron Phasor > Dunwich DA120 > Space Echo > then stereo out of the echo into a Mimiq and whatever reverb I end up with, in whatever order they sound best in. From there it'll go into a EHX 720 looper I picked up recently and then out to the amps. Obviously there will be a tuner in there somewhere.

Ok that makes more $ense.

And your pedal chain sounds rad. I dig the sound of that Black Forest.

What flavor of FF are you building?

[rfurtkamp]

Assuming you're talking about the RE-20 Space Echo, the reverb on it is the only "stereo" aspect - there's no panning etc on the echo itself. Not that this is a bad thing (and frankly, the "Stereo" aspect of the reverb is MINIMAL), but just pointing out the obvious. If big box actual then it'll be direct signal only out of one out, echo out the other. (I have both).

If RE-20, I'd run the Mimiq into the delay. On the big box, I'd probably still do that and just use it mono.