There are audible differences in how the PF and H9 handle the algos. I heard it initially and then poked around and read about other people noticing the difference as well. To me the H9 made the patches sound more brittle. I also prefer having all the parameter knobs in front of me with the PF versus having to use the H9 software to tweak patches.tremolo3 wrote:Pitchfactor and H9 algorithms are the same, and honestly can't think of any reason why anyone would waste resources in modify them in any way, unless they both run on different hardware.
What it is different from those pedals and might change overall sound is the input and output levels, H9 has a different way to set those, whereas in the PF you flip a switch.
And also there is a "Source" parameter, you might want to double check that value.
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H9 also looks stupid. But really guys, gimme so presets
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H9 has different stuff from the Factors to account for the headroom difference (more in Factors, less in H9). I forget the specs, but what is it, +9 or +12 vs +6? Dunno if analog, converters, or both. For some of the SNES holocaust stuff ILFers run, I would definitely believe it matters.
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Oooh of course. I think i paid to little attention to the "home brewed" part of it hahaodontophobia wrote:Axoloti.fcknoise wrote:As someone out of the pedal game, this sounds interesting. Whats this?Invisible Man wrote:It is, humbly, the greatest pedal ever made.
It can do some of everything, and most of it better than the rest. This week I decided I would sell it and buy simpler pedals to play guitar more traditionally (verb, delay, whammy, tuner). Then I realized I could do all of those things better with the PF. And is still be missing 90% of what I could do before.
H9 is inferior. Everything is inferior.
The earlier comment about it being ahead of its time is the only explanation I have...Eventide is sorta unsexy compared to the ILF microbuilders, too, but damn if this thing hasn’t kicked everything else off my board except dirt and a home brew Clouds pedal.
Allows you to patch up your own shit. There's a thread about it some place.
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H9 is inferior. I sold my Pitchfactor to put towards an H9 so I could have some of that Blackhole verb too, but I gotta say, I just barely use the H9. I'm not much of a preset person and I'm just not going to take out my phone to mess with the H9 whenever I want to use it. Technically, you can access everything through the H9 pedal, but it's just way to much menu diving for me. Will likely have to go back to the Pitchfactor and maybe find a smaller pedal that can get me a similar verb sound if anyone has recommendations.Invisible Man wrote:It is, humbly, the greatest pedal ever made.
It can do some of everything, and most of it better than the rest. This week I decided I would sell it and buy simpler pedals to play guitar more traditionally (verb, delay, whammy, tuner). Then I realized I could do all of those things better with the PF. And is still be missing 90% of what I could do before.
H9 is inferior. Everything is inferior.
The earlier comment about it being ahead of its time is the only explanation I have...Eventide is sorta unsexy compared to the ILF microbuilders, too, but damn if this thing hasn’t kicked everything else off my board except dirt and a home brew Clouds pedal.
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Yep.gkuesmtpo wrote:H9 is inferior. I sold my Pitchfactor to put towards an H9 so I could have some of that Blackhole verb too, but I gotta say, I just barely use the H9. I'm not much of a preset person and I'm just not going to take out my phone to mess with the H9 whenever I want to use it. Technically, you can access everything through the H9 pedal, but it's just way to much menu diving for me. Will likely have to go back to the Pitchfactor and maybe find a smaller pedal that can get me a similar verb sound if anyone has recommendations.Invisible Man wrote:It is, humbly, the greatest pedal ever made.
It can do some of everything, and most of it better than the rest. This week I decided I would sell it and buy simpler pedals to play guitar more traditionally (verb, delay, whammy, tuner). Then I realized I could do all of those things better with the PF. And is still be missing 90% of what I could do before.
H9 is inferior. Everything is inferior.
The earlier comment about it being ahead of its time is the only explanation I have...Eventide is sorta unsexy compared to the ILF microbuilders, too, but damn if this thing hasn’t kicked everything else off my board except dirt and a home brew Clouds pedal.
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I had the exact same issue where I sold my Space for an H9 because I missed my Pitchfactor and I definitely should’ve kept the Space. It’s infinitely more useable in pretty much any setting than he H9 and I just used the same presets.Faldoe wrote:Yep.gkuesmtpo wrote:H9 is inferior. I sold my Pitchfactor to put towards an H9 so I could have some of that Blackhole verb too, but I gotta say, I just barely use the H9. I'm not much of a preset person and I'm just not going to take out my phone to mess with the H9 whenever I want to use it. Technically, you can access everything through the H9 pedal, but it's just way to much menu diving for me. Will likely have to go back to the Pitchfactor and maybe find a smaller pedal that can get me a similar verb sound if anyone has recommendations.Invisible Man wrote:It is, humbly, the greatest pedal ever made.
It can do some of everything, and most of it better than the rest. This week I decided I would sell it and buy simpler pedals to play guitar more traditionally (verb, delay, whammy, tuner). Then I realized I could do all of those things better with the PF. And is still be missing 90% of what I could do before.
H9 is inferior. Everything is inferior.
The earlier comment about it being ahead of its time is the only explanation I have...Eventide is sorta unsexy compared to the ILF microbuilders, too, but damn if this thing hasn’t kicked everything else off my board except dirt and a home brew Clouds pedal.
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Yeah, I just want an H9 that has all the knobs on it instead of the big wheel. I know there's a company, I think it's called EvenMidi or something, that makes a midi controller to attach to your H9 so you have all the same control as a factor pedal – but then you're talking about a whole lot of board real estate and $$$.BoatRich wrote:I had the exact same issue where I sold my Space for an H9 because I missed my Pitchfactor and I definitely should’ve kept the Space. It’s infinitely more useable in pretty much any setting than he H9 and I just used the same presets.Faldoe wrote:Yep.gkuesmtpo wrote:H9 is inferior. I sold my Pitchfactor to put towards an H9 so I could have some of that Blackhole verb too, but I gotta say, I just barely use the H9. I'm not much of a preset person and I'm just not going to take out my phone to mess with the H9 whenever I want to use it. Technically, you can access everything through the H9 pedal, but it's just way to much menu diving for me. Will likely have to go back to the Pitchfactor and maybe find a smaller pedal that can get me a similar verb sound if anyone has recommendations.Invisible Man wrote:It is, humbly, the greatest pedal ever made.
It can do some of everything, and most of it better than the rest. This week I decided I would sell it and buy simpler pedals to play guitar more traditionally (verb, delay, whammy, tuner). Then I realized I could do all of those things better with the PF. And is still be missing 90% of what I could do before.
H9 is inferior. Everything is inferior.
The earlier comment about it being ahead of its time is the only explanation I have...Eventide is sorta unsexy compared to the ILF microbuilders, too, but damn if this thing hasn’t kicked everything else off my board except dirt and a home brew Clouds pedal.
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Can't really say anything that Invisibleman hasn't already said.
Except that an expression pedal with this is fun in a bun! Get those major second bends on the go and pretend you brought a lapsteel to a metal show! This pedal has not been beaten and it's 10 years old, how amazing is that?
Never boarded the H9 train as I prefer my boxes knobby, Eventide has dropped the ball on exclusive algorithms so I still feel justified all these years later.
Except that an expression pedal with this is fun in a bun! Get those major second bends on the go and pretend you brought a lapsteel to a metal show! This pedal has not been beaten and it's 10 years old, how amazing is that?
Never boarded the H9 train as I prefer my boxes knobby, Eventide has dropped the ball on exclusive algorithms so I still feel justified all these years later.
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My next purchase. Been looking for something new and fun and honestly every demo I see of most pitch-based pedals sound the same. Like a Boss PS-3 with reverb. Really wanted one of these for a whole, just waiting for one to come up at a decent UK price.
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Got a local deal on a PF and now the task starts of recreating presets.
Such a great pedal. Another cool feature is on the PitchFlex algo you can have/shift two different pitches at once.
Such a great pedal. Another cool feature is on the PitchFlex algo you can have/shift two different pitches at once.
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The pitchfactor really is the ps20 boss never gave usJamesSGBrown wrote:My next purchase. Been looking for something new and fun and honestly every demo I see of most pitch-based pedals sound the same. Like a Boss PS-3 with reverb. Really wanted one of these for a whole, just waiting for one to come up at a decent UK price.
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Just got a mad deal via Reverb from a Polish seller. Hopefully it arrives in the UK safely!
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I feel a bit burned that these (or any still in production Eventide unit) never really dropped in price, despite what few build flaws they sometimes are prone to (mostly with Timefactors, it seems), but that's capitalissmdumb!
Still want the heck out of one, however, and will probably sell all of my semi-functional PS-3s to get there (the first cut is the deepest)
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