Need help- heavy dirt -->chorus/vibrato?

[goroth]

What about Idiot Box chorus pedal thinger?

[rustywire]

I would describe the sound of Harmonic Tremolo as a mixture of vibrato, phaser and tremolo, it can be pretty 'pulsey' sounding and it does emphasise high and low frequencies due to how it works, despite its subtlety I wonder if it might be a too in your face effect for what you described in your first post.

I definitely used to use a Small Clone for subtle thickening and movement, you could grab one and cut the dry resistor out for vibrato if you wanted too.

Yeah. Heavy dirt > chorus is traditionally a hard pass from me as the general rule (for stringed instruments). The lows suffer most. However with synths it is so I started searching ways how to make that work for bass guitar [more on that in a moment]

Pitch vibrato is a good option but I fully agree with the harmonic trem rec, or some sort of univibe, and suggest pursuit of a simple flanger set-subtle

I've found this approach to be most effective in maximizing what I love while minimizing the meh. Some notes-

This is how I use an old MXR micro flanger within recent (fretless) bass setups. Acts as a buffer, slight boost while doing the combfilter subtle-movement thing. Sandwiched between gain stages it's fed squared waves with SB7 synth mode 1 and fairly aggressive filter settings for resonance, beefing them up with clean gain from the comp, deja vibe gives that hypnotic throb made-better-by [insert micro flanger] as Density Hulk handles basic EQ bump and boomshaping while routing all of the above wrath to a wet/dry setup.

And while this setup (complete with home-level settings) may not tick your boxes for [heavy dirt] in traditional ilf ways, there's also a TAFM and v6 Muff out of frame, waiting to be stuck in the mix

[misterstomach]

I'm going to end up buying ten more pedals because of this thread.

I ended up getting on nick dunwich's list for his trem. It does regular and harmonic trem. He sent a demo of the harmonic trem and it sounded awesome. I'm pretty sure it'll do what I want. It'll certainly do some awesome sounds, even if i find myself still shopping for a chorus. I couldn't say no to the chance to get a unique and awesome sounding pedal from one of my favorite small builders with a custom etched finish, all brand new and within my budget. Hopefully it'll be perfect for this application, but even if I end up looking for something else, it sounds rad and i'm sure i'll be glad I got it.

In looking at harmonic trem demos, I came across the EQD night wire. That pedal seems awesome. Weird that I have never heard it mentioned around here. It doesn't do crazy reverse octave up bleep bloop vacuum cleaner noises, which seem to be the pedals people like most around here, so maybe that's why, but it does seem pretty cool.

Anyway, i'll know in 4-6 weeks how that dunwich works out. I might have bought other pedals mentioned in this thread by then. There's certainly some cool ones. Thanks for all the help.

[ognoy]

Small Clone?

The one. It's the only chorus pedal I've owned where the relationship was all love, as opposed to love/hate (mostly hate). When it's clean, it doesn't sound overly 80s. When dirty, it doesn't sound like Van Halen.

And it's cheap.

And you can do the vibrato-mod by snipping a resistor.

[coldbrightsunlight]

In looking at harmonic trem demos, I came across the EQD night wire. That pedal seems awesome. Weird that I have never heard it mentioned around here. It doesn't do crazy reverse octave up bleep bloop vacuum cleaner noises, which seem to be the pedals people like most around here, so maybe that's why, but it does seem pretty cool.

That looks really cool actually! I don't think I'll ever swap out the malekko for trem though, so simple and small and it sounds great. Although the harmonic ones are interesting.

[DRodriguez]

Any dirt into a jazz chorus amp

I have heard great things about scruffie's warbler, excited to try one soon.

I actually use delays as a chorus more often than my chorus pedals, EQD space spiral does a good chorus and plays nice with my dirt.

[rfurtkamp]

Any dirt into a jazz chorus amp

CE-1 mode on the CE-2W gets you there 100%, my vintage JC-50 is basically collecting dust since getting it.

[frigid midget]

Re: heavier/darker -- not capable to vibe, but Jeff Caxide from Isis uses the double detune setting on the PS3 as his chorus sound. PS3 is full of hotness.

I was thinking about something like this as well. I recently discovered how awesome the detune on my ps6 can be, especially on bass. No delay modes but the bend/expression are a lot of fun. I don’t use it for standard pitch shifting at all

Same with me and the ps3. Usually use as a straight delay, or on mode 7 with pitch shift set to 0 — which results in a delay with a sort of bubbling irregular tail.

I’m not big on pitch shifting.

Exactly how I use my PS3. It's a great no-frills digital delay, and mode 7 w/out pitch shifting is awesome too, for that chopped up faux-reverse delay. Never got the hang of pitch shifting, can't seem to use it in an actual musical way

On topic: As much as it'll gimmick chorus sounds, it doesn't come close to a CE2 or Small Clone imo, let alone an actual vibrato pedlol

[Jero]

You guys have me wanting a ps3 now, go figure

Another good option, imo, is the old korg chr1. Does chorus, flanger, and vibrato (with a dummy plug). I have a george l male jack I step on to go from chorus to vibe type sounds

[youtube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=50EMSk-U6To[/youtube]

[misterstomach]

The thing that makes me shy away from the ps3, and some other similar pedals is that I wouldn't use 90% of the pedals functionality, which seems like a waste. I'm sure it does a lot of cool stuff, but I already have two delays on my board and little interest in pitch shifting for the time being. So I'd be buying it just to do the one thing and it just seems like I could find something that just does that thing really well that I'd like better.

And for live use, I really try to minimize doing much/any knob twisting. A slight change of delay time or a minor adjustment or whatever between songs once or twice is fine, but i'm not going to switch from mode 8 to mode 5 and readjust the knobs to an approximate position on stage in the dark mid set (certainly not mid song) and hope i got it right. I've tried this before and I usually don't get it quite right and it's really frustrating. I don't use a ton of pedals and have plenty of room on my board right now, so I prefer ones that just do one (maybe sometimes two) thing(s) really well so I can mostly just step on them when I need them and not have to give them much other attention during a show.

If I were more of a recording at home type of person I'd probably get a lot more use out of a pedal like that and spend more time diving into what it can do, but that's just not where I'm focused these days.