Need help- heavy dirt -->chorus/vibrato?

[misterstomach]

Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. Keep them coming. I was so close to buying a cosmic horus when the v3 came out cause i knew one day I'd want a chorus pedal. Of course i never did and i'm beating myself up for it. However, there's a lot of great options coming up in this thread, so I've got a lot to chew on. I obviously don't know what style of music everyone plays, but if your experience pertains to heavier darker stuff, i'd be interested to know, although i'm interested in everyone else's thoughts too. I know goroth plays the metal.

[spacelordmother]

Re: heavier/darker -- not capable to vibe, but Jeff Caxide from Isis uses the double detune setting on the PS3 as his chorus sound. PS3 is full of hotness.

[coldbrightsunlight]

I don't like to push my own wares outside of the Shark Tank too much but you are literally describing The Warbler, it's even under $200.

Check out Honza's demo, he pairs it up with a big muff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLLr ... EgKvoGykvA

I like this a lot and like using it with lots of fuzz.

Sea Machine is rad as all hell with dirt but it's not "warm" if that's what you want.

I also like the boss CE2 or VB2

[resincum]

just get a cheap ass ch-1 sounds great before or after dirt. has a tone control. super crisp for sure. doesn't go vibrato warbles but nails that chorus vibe perfectly imo. got one for ilfss and it's been kickin ass. I play drop c in a loud ass band fwiw. ce-3 is awesome too and gets a lil more warbly before dirt. really makes everything sound better tho so you'll want to always have it on :/

[D.o.S.]

Re: heavier/darker -- not capable to vibe, but Jeff Caxide from Isis uses the double detune setting on the PS3 as his chorus sound. PS3 is full of hotness.

Yeah I would look into the Boss pitch shifters for sure. Also most of them do double duty as a delay.

Is this still for Druden or is there another band?

[misterstomach]

Still for Druden. We've been off the radar for a little bit. In the process of ramping things back up, but I just broke my ankle and had to have surgery a few days ago, so all plans are off the table for the time being, but we hopefully have some exciting stuff coming up before too long.

Though I am starting to percolate on maybe starting a new project. Got some ideas.

[popvulture]

Small Clone?

The one. It's the only chorus pedal I've owned where the relationship was all love, as opposed to love/hate (mostly hate). When it's clean, it doesn't sound overly 80s. When dirty, it doesn't sound like Van Halen.

And it's cheap.

[Jero]

Re: heavier/darker -- not capable to vibe, but Jeff Caxide from Isis uses the double detune setting on the PS3 as his chorus sound. PS3 is full of hotness.

I was thinking about something like this as well. I recently discovered how awesome the detune on my ps6 can be, especially on bass. No delay modes but the bend/expression are a lot of fun. I don’t use it for standard pitch shifting at all

[spacelordmother]

Re: heavier/darker -- not capable to vibe, but Jeff Caxide from Isis uses the double detune setting on the PS3 as his chorus sound. PS3 is full of hotness.

I was thinking about something like this as well. I recently discovered how awesome the detune on my ps6 can be, especially on bass. No delay modes but the bend/expression are a lot of fun. I don’t use it for standard pitch shifting at all

Same with me and the ps3. Usually use as a straight delay, or on mode 7 with pitch shift set to 0 — which results in a delay with a sort of bubbling irregular tail.

I’m not big on pitch shifting.

[rfurtkamp]

I'm a simple man.

Give me a Jazz Chorus or CE-1 (CE-2W CE-1 mode is just copacetic as well).

[Gone Fission]

If you do stereo, Roland/Boss Dimension C/D chorus can hold up pretty well to distortion and ends up sounding less sea-sick than others can--it's about how the two voices are on inverse waveforms and essentially the sharpness of one voice is matched by the flatness of the other, both wrapped around the dry signal. Cheap ticket to that sound is the CE-20, which also has a good digital emulation of the CE-1.

[misterstomach]

i'm not doing stereo these days and won't be again for the foreseeable future. but it sounds like i should explore boss more. i have a vague memory of playing around with an old boss chorus at some point in the past and not loving it, but i might have made that up.

i've certainly heard small clones a ton, but i've never played one. hadn't even really thought about it. they can be had so cheap i should probably just pick one up at some point just for the hell of it even if i find something else.

to throw a curveball, it was suggested to me that i look into a harmonic trem. I know I said that I didn't think tremolo was what I wanted, but I didn't really know about harmonic trem. watching some demos, it sounds a lot more like a vibe than what I think of as tremolo. it sounds pretty good. I can get a dunwich one within my budget. Any experience with this type of thing? could it be what I want? As usual (with pedals at least), there's way too many good choices out there.

[Cody_Pole]

Re: heavier/darker -- not capable to vibe, but Jeff Caxide from Isis uses the double detune setting on the PS3 as his chorus sound. PS3 is full of hotness.

This, so much this.

[Jero]

i'm not doing stereo these days and won't be again for the foreseeable future. but it sounds like i should explore boss more. i have a vague memory of playing around with an old boss chorus at some point in the past and not loving it, but i might have made that up.

i've certainly heard small clones a ton, but i've never played one. hadn't even really thought about it. they can be had so cheap i should probably just pick one up at some point just for the hell of it even if i find something else.

to throw a curveball, it was suggested to me that i look into a harmonic trem. I know I said that I didn't think tremolo was what I wanted, but I didn't really know about harmonic trem. watching some demos, it sounds a lot more like a vibe than what I think of as tremolo. it sounds pretty good. I can get a dunwich one within my budget. Any experience with this type of thing? could it be what I want? As usual (with pedals at least), there's way too many good choices out there.

Pretty sure the “vibrato” on a lot of old amps was actually harmonic trem. I think the highs and lows get shifted as it does the volume rise and fall.

[Scruffie]

I would describe the sound of Harmonic Tremolo as a mixture of vibrato, phaser and tremolo, it can be pretty 'pulsey' sounding and it does emphasise high and low frequencies due to how it works, despite its subtlety I wonder if it might be a too in your face effect for what you described in your first post.

I definitely used to use a Small Clone for subtle thickening and movement, you could grab one and cut the dry resistor out for vibrato if you wanted too.