The controversial gear thread

[Jwar]

Half of those pedals are digital.

They’re digitally controlled, not digital

Pfffttt same difference.

[goroth]

Headroom is related to the voltage gain of the signal before it distorts. This is to do with the design of the circuit and not the power supply.

would it be both for pedals that can be run at 18v instead of 9v and then do have... more headroom?

(full disclosure: part trolling, part truly wanting to understand )

The design of the circuit will determine whether you get more headroom running a pedal off 18v, but the headroom comes from allowing greater voltage gain before clipping. If the pedal isn't designed to run at 18V then you won't get that effect.

[goroth]

You're so full of it man. You spew randomass semi-right mostly wrong "knowledge" but when asked to back up your shit, you say you're too tired.

Your pedals might have an analog dry-path, but the effect itself is digital.

We’ve gone over that, this whole digital thing is about a fully digital pedal not digital/ analog hybrid pedals that conserve your analog path

You just said that your pedals are merely digitally controlled. If that was the case, your original signal and the effected signal would be analog. This is not the case. A CBA pedal is digitally controlled, but the effect is analog. Your Empress pedals have an analog dry-path but the effect is digital.

As I said with the Joel from Chase bliss thing, I said to you the affected signal is digital but never is the analog signal manipulated. In a true digital effect there is no seperate analog path. Yeah I still need to show you his diagram and I’ll get to that but you’re not telling me anything I’m not aware of

You're wrong dude. The affected signal stays analogue all the time, only the values of the different parameters are controlled digitally. Adding a fucking blend to a digital pedal doesn't make it "non-true digital".

CBA pedals use vactrols to allow digital control over analogue parameters. The signal path is 100% analogue.
The Echosystem on the other hand has an analogue dry through. Any signal processing there is digital.
The Boss DD-7 has an analogue bypassed signal, but when activated the dry is also digital.
But this is just being pernickety.

[actual]

Well, colour me anal.

[goroth]

Well, colour me anal.

tl;dr: you were correct re: CBA.

[actual]

I know, but you said I was being pernickety.

[goroth]

I know, but you said I was being pernickety.

I was!
There are much greater problems with this thread than how delay pedals get their sound.

[actual]

I was mostly doing it due to Alex' claims of having crushing knowledge of gear, yet struggling to get stuff like this right. I'll park my ego for the night though. Maybe.

[tremolo3]

That was fun.

OP needs to understand that some people here don't really give a shit about running shit tons of cool digital pedals into boutique tube amps and aluminum necked JMs, as long as ILF approves

[goroth]

I was mostly doing it due to Alex' claims of having crushing knowledge of gear, yet struggling to get stuff like this right. I'll park my ego for the night though. Maybe.

No, I meant I was being pernickety. Not you dude.

[actual]

Yeah I got that, but I was basically doing the same thing as you.

[qersty]

Wow thanks guys now i gotta sell all my digital shit and scatter wind my pickups. I was hoping to be able to buy a synthesizer :/

[friendship]

And actually we haven't even gotten to this gem yet:

Also to add onto this, besides digital pedals I see a lot of “lesser quality brands” on pedalboards with really amazing pedals on them. Besides the function of what it’s doing, can you not hear the lesser quality of the product, say EHX for example... ok go!

If the market value of your pedals isn't plainly audible to you then you must not hear very well. My troop leader at Audio Scouts said I was very good at ears so I know what $20 sounds like.

[AlexGlassLungs]

This Thai food I just ordered is delicious

[friendship]

It would be better if they hand-scattered chopped peanuts on it instead of a machine doing it. If you like that, fine; you don't care about it being better I guess.