Muskrat & wavetable drums - any alternatives???

[doommeow]

I hate drum machines. Overly complicated, too polite, just meh.

The Moffenzeef Muskrat is exactly what I want from a drum 'machine' - compact, dynamic, noisy dirty filthy as fuck, simple controls, seemingly easy to assbackwards your way into neat sounds, inexpensive (relatively).

But I'm trying to avoid the eurorabbithole.

What else is out there? Any desktop drum modules? Anything nasty, glitchy, and with simple learning curve? Or does randomization and noisy glitch just mean biting the euro bullet?

[MrNovember]

I don't really want to say it because I know you're not looking for this answer, but the Drumbrute is pretty inexpensive and super easy to use. It's definitely not complicated

Will you get neat, filthy sounds? No. Send it though some effects? Sounds great!

Also, the Muskrat is really just the sound source, you'd still need a way to sequence it and modulate the different inputs to get any interesting sounds out of it

[$harkToootth]

The MR. D from Malekko Heavy looks promising. Each drum part has a drive part in tandem with a master drive and compression.
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[MrNovember]

I'm definitely interested to hear more from the Mr D. Definitely something I could get behind

[Warpsmasher]

I hate drum machines. Overly complicated, too polite, just meh.

The Moffenzeef Muskrat is exactly what I want from a drum 'machine' - compact, dynamic, noisy dirty filthy as fuck, simple controls, seemingly easy to assbackwards your way into neat sounds, inexpensive (relatively).

Look into Noise Reap and Erica Synths Pico modules, very affordable stuff that kicks ass and would definitely work well with a Muskrat. One row in a Make Noise skiff or a Happy Ending Kit is enough for that too, but it will still grow on you as you fill it, add sound sources, mixing, extra modulation, etc.

But I'm trying to avoid the eurorabbithole.

What else is out there? Any desktop drum modules? Anything nasty, glitchy, and with simple learning curve?

The Malekko stuff definitely looks good, and modular friendly, which is awesome. Also the Trogotronic noiseboxes, which are also modular friendly, ms669 and ms679 (I have the eurorack versions of both). They are both made to fuck up drums and samples in different ways, and generate all sorts of fuzzy oscillating glitchnoise, which is all CV controllable, clockable, etc.

Or does randomization and noisy glitch just mean biting the euro bullet?

There are plenty of other ways, Kaossilator into a Death Metal is good times. Having lots of choices just like that all in one rack is better though.

[doommeow]

I hate drum machines. Overly complicated, too polite, just meh.

The Moffenzeef Muskrat is exactly what I want from a drum 'machine' - compact, dynamic, noisy dirty filthy as fuck, simple controls, seemingly easy to assbackwards your way into neat sounds, inexpensive (relatively).

Look into Noise Reap and Erica Synths Pico modules, very affordable stuff that kicks ass and would definitely work well with a Muskrat. One row in a Make Noise skiff or a Happy Ending Kit is enough for that too, but it will still grow on you as you fill it, add sound sources, mixing, extra modulation, etc.

But I'm trying to avoid the eurorabbithole.

What else is out there? Any desktop drum modules? Anything nasty, glitchy, and with simple learning curve?

The Malekko stuff definitely looks good, and modular friendly, which is awesome. Also the Trogotronic noiseboxes, which are also modular friendly, ms669 and ms679 (I have the eurorack versions of both). They are both made to fuck up drums and samples in different ways, and generate all sorts of fuzzy oscillating glitchnoise, which is all CV controllable, clockable, etc.

Or does randomization and noisy glitch just mean biting the euro bullet?

There are plenty of other ways, Kaossilator into a Death Metal is good times. Having lots of choices just like that all in one rack is better though.

I've already bought a Rast so no need for a skiff....

Trogotronic is an interesting idea. They been on my radar for years now. Looks like the 669 can do rhythmic, glitchy stuff. Might be an interesting alternative to the Muskrat.

One of these days I'll get a Death Metal. Digitech for easier feedback routing...

[doommeow]

I don't really want to say it because I know you're not looking for this answer, but the Drumbrute is pretty inexpensive and super easy to use. It's definitely not complicated

Will you get neat, filthy sounds? No. Send it though some effects? Sounds great!

Also, the Muskrat is really just the sound source, you'd still need a way to sequence it and modulate the different inputs to get any interesting sounds out of it

$400-$500 for the drumbrute gets me the muskrat, power, and either some more toys or leftover $. I dunno - I understand that drum machines aren't that complicated, or aren't supposed to be - but i always end up futzing with settings and programs and chaining things together rather than just getting down to playing. I've yet to find one that's intuitive and immediate for the way that I think - which isn't very much most days.

I've got some basic sequencing and CV wrangling tools already - 8step, a custom Copilot box, Microbrute, O-coast, goatkeeper...

[$harkToootth]

For simplest learning curve (i.e. none) I throw my Volca Beats through my Geiger Counter. Capital 'N' Nasty.