Where do we stand on Billy Corgan? //hivemind

[repoman]

really makes you think doesn't it

[friendship]

My other favorite Corgan story:

Surfer's Paradise is the jumping-off point for the Big Day Out tour, a sort of Australian Lollapalooza that Soundgarden will headline this year. In the lobby bar of one of the tallest hotels, Cornell and Thayil are settling back with a couple of beers when Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins wanders through, and decides to join them for a strawberry margarita. Corgan chatters about the pain of his life, the supposed incompetence of his band (everybody rolls their eyes), the lifesaving virtues of Jungian therapy, bands that suck. Cornell gets up to leave. Corgan tells Thayil how important Soundgarden used to be to him, and he baits him by saying that the Pumpkins sometimes do a cover of Soundgarden's "Outshined" that segues into a Depeche Mode song or something.

"I'm thinking of making my next album really new wave," Corgan says, "like '83-'84 new wave, not like Berlin. I spend all my time doing things that may be a bit tangential, but I think I'm going to go back to the core, the heart music. Echo and the Bunnymen."

This is standard stuff to anybody who has read even a single Billy Corgan profile, the basic curriculum of Pumpkins 101. But Thayil isn't buying. He's sore.

"Don't you see," Thayil says, "you're this incredibly talented guy. People like your music. You have a good band. You sell a lot of records. You don't need all this...stuff."

"What sign are you?" Corgan asks.

"What do you mean, what sign am I?" Thayil says. "What difference could that possibly make?"

"C'mon," wheedles Corgan, "when is your birthday?"

"All right, goddamn it: September 4th."

"Aha!" Corgan says. "A Virgo. You're argumentative."

"Damn right, I'm argumentative," Thayil says, and takes a long, angry pulll at his beer, "which you should know because I've been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign."

"I'm a Pisces," Corgan replies. "We pick up on those things."

A minute later, Corgan, still probing, finally finds the key to Thayil's heart: "I hate how in magazine pictures, they always stick me somewhere in the back."

Thayil explodes: "What do you mean? You write all the songs, and you do all the interviews. You play the instruments on the album. You control the band to the extent that most people think of Smashing Pumpkins as the Billy Corgan Experience, and all you care about is some photograph?"

"But I hate it," Corgan says, "it means they don't think I'm the cute one."

"Ooh," Thayil says a little too loudly as Corgan walks away, "I'll bet he's going to call his therapist in Chicago, wake her up at four in the morning, and tell her about that big, mean bear who made fun of him."

The next day at the Big Day Out festival, Thayil is talking to Kim and Kelley Deal in the Breeders' dressing room when Corgan walks past wearing a long-sleeved Superman T-shirt like the one your four-year-old nephew probably owns.

"You hurt me deeply," Corgan says, touching the giant S on his chest and pouting. "You hurt me deeply in my heart." The Pumpkins go on to play the best set anybody has ever heard them play, their usual passiveness and precision overlaid with an unfamiliar scrim of anger that throws their music into brilliant relief.

http://web.stargate.net/soundgarden/articles/spin_4-94.shtml

fuckin strawberry margarita

[lost in music]

Hey fellas, getaloada this:

https://reverb.com/shop/the-official-bi ... everb-shop

[tremolo3]

BWAHAHAHSTASRTNST

[Olin]

I've been offering $3.50 for everything available, and hoping that either he reads the messages or someone gets him to read them.
Top. Notch. Cunt.

Also reporting them as fraudulent. Corgan isn't worth this much.

[popvulture]

I feel like most of the stuff listed is pretty wack, later period shit, but that starry strat made me hnnnnnnng. Guess they're accepting ludicrous offers... wonder what it'll go for.

PS has anybody else been bewildered by that photo they keep using in the banners, etc? Is that even Corgan? Jesus... he looks like fucking Varys.

[Invisible Man]

Only $1M plus $40 shipping.

[rustywire]

I've been offering $3.50 for everything available, and hoping that either he reads the messages or someone gets him to read them.
Top. Notch. Cunt.

Also reporting them as fraudulent. Corgan isn't worth this much.

that sounds like my offer move. Then, when the dick counters [hehe] or declines, I say "Well then how about....two fiddy?"
SP references 4L

[friendship]

Jesus... he looks like fucking Varys.

I think you're on to, something this is basically a SP lyric

[rfurtkamp]

I'm tempted by the Crate practice amp at only $6,000.

https://reverb.com/item/6319279-crate-g ... -1-machina

[comesect2.0]

.......hey cool, i a milf now!

[rfurtkamp]

I owned that very amp for about a week back in '98.

After moving out here, I had to flip everything or live under it.

I picked up one of those amps and a Strat clone for cheap.

I regretted the amp almost immediately - it was better than nothing, but...unless I wanted SUPER METAL BUZZBOX...

No way am I paying that for one.

Maybe $5000, definitely.

[comesect2.0]

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Crate/ ... 3480375.gc
20 bucks. for that"machina sound"

[rfurtkamp]

That's less than a Metal Zone!

[jrfox92]

SR-19 for $30,000?

Does he owe the Mafia money?