neonblack wrote:I should have the recording from last night's practice to listen back to today. I'll know if I'm just feeling crazy in the moment or if it's really true.
I listened to one of your podcasts the other day and I know you said something about your personal mood changes effecting how you perceive the sound. I'm the same way. Some days a pedal sounds like rubbish and "why the fuck did I buy this?" and another day the pedal makes you go "oooooo ummmmm...that's what I'm fucking talking about!" and rinse and repeat .
"SWIPE LEFT ASSHOLE!" -retinal orbita "Whatever ASSHOLE here’s my pedal that makes humpback whale noises and also it has a built in sequencer so stick it in your craw! -retinal orbita "Patty Mullen takes me from a ball peen to a sledge" -The Great Velvet Hammer "...at this exact moment Divine has learned of your jealous scheme from the local town gossip. She also has your address, ASS HOLE!" -Narrator (Mr. J) PINK FLAMINGOS 1 bird per post please
I think unless you have a fantastically treated space, a lot of the nuances of different fuzzes will be lost in a band setting. I've been dealing with this sort of thing, just on a broader scaled with my entire sound in practice. Sounds great at home, sounds like mush at practice. I think it has a lot to do with amp placement (for example, all of them on the floor, often pointing at each other and/or bouncing off weird stuff), standing waves, bad reflections etc.
I am personally not a believer in trying to dial in a perfect sound in practice. In my experience, fuzz sounds like fuzz... some may cut more than others, and certainly eq has tons to do with it, but I personally don't think you're going to hear much if any subtlety between say, different kinds of muffs in a shitty room (out of context that phrase sounds amazing) with loud drums and bass.
I tend to try to approach my sound in two ways: from a perfection standpoint, which I would use for recording or in a live situation with a really great FOH. Secondly, from a more "is this roughly doing what I want it to do" point of view: less subtlety, does this sound loud enough, does it cut when I kick this on, etc. I think the latter is really the impression the audience will always have, and those magical subtleties are only going to be missed by you and/or people with seasoned/discerning ears. I feel like gravitating more towards this leads to a lot less frustration, and it's also a far superior approach for less than ideal sound environments.
neonblack wrote:They say tone is in the hooks
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I have noticed that subtlety isn't really working in our band context. Same with delay, and I haven't even bothered with reverb yet. There are a couple quieter parts that could stand some verb. And the only delay I can use with any reliability is a short digital delay set to 1 repeat. As far as gain, I'm mostly looking for cleanish, normal dirty, and punch in the teeth. Don't need much besides that.
I think I'm just gonna find a couple cheaper "gets the job done" dirts and be done with it. We're never going to play in a huge room. No point in stressing about nuance when it's all going to be eardrum shredding anyways.
Popvulture makes excellent points. That is kind of why I hoard gear. I told UC a while back pedals are like an expensive hobby for me. When I seldom play out or with people I bring maybe 5 pedals and most of them are from my 'replaceable collection'. Some of my off the cuff modulation pedals would probably sound "really dumb" over a PA.
"SWIPE LEFT ASSHOLE!" -retinal orbita "Whatever ASSHOLE here’s my pedal that makes humpback whale noises and also it has a built in sequencer so stick it in your craw! -retinal orbita "Patty Mullen takes me from a ball peen to a sledge" -The Great Velvet Hammer "...at this exact moment Divine has learned of your jealous scheme from the local town gossip. She also has your address, ASS HOLE!" -Narrator (Mr. J) PINK FLAMINGOS 1 bird per post please
Could it be your ears? Perhaps when all those frequencies are flying around at the same time, your ears are getting confused. I know that shit happens to me and I play alone.
A lot of fuzzes do sound the same.
When I was at the ILFMW meet up recently Drod and Worra were playing together. Both using fuzzes. The only reason I could hear both fuzzes going was because of how differently voiced they were. Well, and I dialed one in for Worra. LOL. So, maybe you need to try a different flavor too. I like pedals that have good blended circuits. The Depth Charge, Bumble Fuzz, OBD 3...etc. They have good bottom and a very distinct tone.
"I do not have the ability to think rationally 90% of the time and I also change my mind at the drop of a hat".
"SWIPE LEFT ASSHOLE!" -retinal orbita "Whatever ASSHOLE here’s my pedal that makes humpback whale noises and also it has a built in sequencer so stick it in your craw! -retinal orbita "Patty Mullen takes me from a ball peen to a sledge" -The Great Velvet Hammer "...at this exact moment Divine has learned of your jealous scheme from the local town gossip. She also has your address, ASS HOLE!" -Narrator (Mr. J) PINK FLAMINGOS 1 bird per post please
and rinse and repeat 
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LOL. So, maybe you need to try a different flavor too. I like pedals that have good blended circuits. The Depth Charge, Bumble Fuzz, OBD 3...etc. They have good bottom and a very distinct tone.
