Pedals with LFO output?

[nintimdo]

Any recommendations for pedals with an LFO output? I'm looking for something standalone with a small footprint that's switchable. The best thing I've found so far is the Copilot FX Broadcast but it's not widely available.

Also interested in pedals that have LFO output as a secondary function- I know Randy's Revenge and some Moogs do it.

[alexsga]

pretty sure Broadcasts are available, widely

[$harkToootth]

This is a great but expensive pedal (and worth every penny) - WMD PROTOSTAR has an LFO out. I believe Dwarfcraft Happiness does too?

EDIT: 100% does

EDIT EDIT: On shit you want stand alone. You can use a CV Sequencer like EHX 8 Step. I know a lot of people have taken to doubling up on their KORG SQ-1s for that sort of thing.

[baremountain]

Dwarfcraft Twin Stags & Happiness do LFO right now, and their upcoming Curse will as well. Their ARF can output an envelope that's foot-triggerable too. The main issue with that is they output 0-10V CV, which is outside of the range that most guitar pedals are set to accept (but works real nice with Eurorack gear).
WMD Protostar has both envelope and LFO outputs.
EHX 8-Step can be configured to spit out something that looks exactly like a triangle wave or square wave LFO very easily, or it can do discrete steps.
Korg SQ-1 ain't a pedal but it can also send CV sequences.
Ezhi and Aka has, in the past, made pedals that can send their LFOs out too.

But first and foremost you have to know what you're planning to send this LFO to. Certain things are meant to accept CV, certain things are meant to take expression pedals (simply an external pot), and certain things accept both. What're you using? That might help us help you out.

EDIT: well fuck me, $harktooth, you stole my glory

[$harkToootth]

Maybe not yet buddy! You have a Pretty Years? Doesn't that have some outs?

[baremountain]

Pretty Years only has a CV in. It makes sense tho considering the filter is static unless you've got FM engaged, and then it's very crudely envelope sensitive modulation.

While we're lamenting, it's a damn shame that Fairfield didn't carry over the CV out from the Randy's Revenge to the modulation on the Shallow Water.

[nintimdo]

pretty sure Broadcasts are available, widely

You know where I can find it other than direct from Copilot? Trying to avoid the shipping from the Dominican Republic.

Thanks for the responses, I'm looking to use it with the VB-2w depth input and with a DD-500 for delay time.

Didn't even think the Korg SQ-1 was an option and totally forgot about the 8-step- those would be cool! I don't know much about CV, would both of these work on most pedals with an exp. in?

[baremountain]

That's the tricky part. There are three different common CV ranges - eurorack uses 0 to +/-10V, many analog fx pedals, the 8-step, and all of Korg's gear uses 0-5V, and many digital pedals are calibrated to operate in the 0-3.3V range. Rule of thumb is you can always send a smaller range (ie 3.3V sent to a euro is fine) - you just get a smaller control sweep with that voltage range. However, you never want to send something voltage that's outside of that device's CV bias range (ie 10V into a 0-3.3V is liable to fry the receiving device with extended use). The EHX 8-step product page has a user- and manufacturer-generated list of devices that will work with the 8-step (and in turn, the SQ-1). The 8-step has a master depth control that allows you to use it with 0-3.3V devices as well (there are notes beside these on their list that say "depth 5-6" - Ct5, Eventides, Red Panda, etc), but I can't speak for the SQ-1.

Short answer to your question is that if the manufacturer doesn't make a deliberate attempt to make an expression jack work with CV, then it isn't likely. You can sometimes get results by sending CV and other times you really don't want to risk it with expensive gear. In analog devices, you're very likely to be totally fine if that potentiometer already acts as a voltage divider, but you'd need a schematic to know that for sure. Normally things are marked Exp/CV if they're calibrated as such, but you can always check with a manufacturer if you can't find that info.

I can't imagine that the DD-500 doesn't work w CV though.

[tremolo3]

V2 of the Paradox Oniric does that, I think.

[resincum]

I can't imagine that the DD-500 doesn't work w CV though.

does not. I tried sending come CV into it from an ARF and it glitched it out//changed from whatever mode to shimmer with weird ass settings.

[baremountain]

^^ that's likely because the ARF operates at 2-3x the voltage range that the DD500 would be built to accept if it does take CV.
go outside of that boundary and digital circuitry esp gets wonky af.

[aen]

Dwarfcraft Twin Stags & Happiness do LFO right now, and their upcoming Curse will as well. Their ARF can output an envelope that's foot-triggerable too. The main issue with that is they output 0-10V CV,

Sorry, I'm not trying to nit-pick with you, I just want to be sure the TRUTH IS OUT THERE, Scully. But anyway the ARF actually spits out about 7 volts.
Curse will have about 10v on the modulation out, and 9v on the tempo out.

[baremountain]

Dwarfcraft Twin Stags & Happiness do LFO right now, and their upcoming Curse will as well. Their ARF can output an envelope that's foot-triggerable too. The main issue with that is they output 0-10V CV,

Sorry, I'm not trying to nit-pick with you, I just want to be sure the TRUTH IS OUT THERE, Scully. But anyway the ARF actually spits out about 7 volts.
Curse will have about 10v on the modulation out, and 9v on the tempo out.

Good looking out Haha if anyone can speak on it, you're the dude, so please nitpick away. We must stop fake news at all costs
Point still stands about that being larger than the DD500's possible CV range tho, so the wonk could be explained as such (it's just by a magnitude of 1.5-2x, vs 2-3x)

[jrfox92]

I wonder if a voltage divider might make it work with a DD500 (obviously it wouldn't work the same as it would with something set up to use that specific CV range, but it might still work).
And thoughts on that, Ben?

[$harkToootth]

I can't imagine that the DD-500 doesn't work w CV though.

does not. I tried sending come CV into it from an ARF and it glitched it out//changed from whatever mode to shimmer with weird ass settings.

Resincum, do you have an SQ-1 for your synths? You could use that. It has multiple voltage outputs.

If you don't have one they're only $100 brand new and I see them on sale for 20% off frequently. That or the older beatsteps.