Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

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Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

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any super sensitive fuzz like my soundwavebreakdown...super responsive, makes me play better...some settings cancel out the squealing...any thing paired with it allows feedback which is always a good thing once your shredding has taken course and you can now wave your axe around changing the feedback pitch....any fuzz where you can clap your hands away from the instrument and it picks up.
I havent had the chance to afford playing/flipping tons of fuzz'z but I think a nice touch is when your done ripping and you pull the chord out from your guitar and place your thumb on it to pick up radio signals is a good thing to do. :lol:
that wizard fuzz is shlllllllop...and that idiotbox landphil is what you call sqyuishy?
I hate most gated fuzz'z. its like my signal cant win. fighting threw harsh wet boulders toppling over you.
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Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

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Providing it's not something voltage starved or I'm relying on the sustain of the thing to get the sound I want, everything I have would be "fast" by any envelope standard, and I have a couple dozen pedals and rackmounts!
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comesect2.0 wrote:any super sensitive fuzz like my soundwavebreakdown...super responsive, makes me play better...some settings cancel out the squealing...any thing paired with it allows feedback which is always a good thing once your shredding has taken course and you can now wave your axe around changing the feedback pitch....any fuzz where you can clap your hands away from the instrument and it picks up.
I havent had the chance to afford playing/flipping tons of fuzz'z but I think a nice touch is when your done ripping and you pull the chord out from your guitar and place your thumb on it to pick up radio signals is a good thing to do. :lol:
that wizard fuzz is shlllllllop...and that idiotbox landphil is what you call sqyuishy?
I hate most gated fuzz'z. its like my signal cant win. fighting threw harsh wet boulders toppling over you.
Tha Landphil is fast as hell at most settings but when you crank the gain it sags like a muhfuh. So squishy at high gain.
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Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

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If you want really damaged slow distortion I'd go with a Seppuku Effects Octave Drone, and even better two of them :) I built two clones that I modified to have extra damage effects, but the way the signal can slowly blend in from gated nothing to roar when you crank it is great fun. My mods don't affect the swell in of the distortion, just change the broken aspect of everything

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Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

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The HM-2 has some gating diodes (there's a technical term for what they do escaping me after several beers) that aren't always going to have full effect at different settings which is probably why it offers both fast and slow depending on how they're 'blooming'.

I like a bit of both, chords, a nice bloom or slow dirt is lovely, for shreddy time, going to go for fast most of the time.

I'd say the difference between the MkI and II tone bender shows this principle quite well... it's really a case of certain circuit parts hitting their limit in voltage swing and crapping out before recovering rather than being in the zone.

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Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

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Tristan wrote:Mid Fi does have stuff like that, dirt with envelope.
Yeah, both Magick "i" and the Overdrive before it. I could swear there was an Escobedo design that was explicitly an envelope distortion, too, but I can't remember which one.

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Can do it in a GT-100 (and I assume the GT-1 multi that uses the same engine) with the assigns as well if you want to make envelope-controlled gain. And make it do anything stupid you want, and then some!
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Tristan wrote:I strongly prefer a fast and heavy attack, give it to me straight up my face.
Would you consider the Caroline Wave Cannon Mk II one of those?
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i like dirt that starts out quick but then begins to lag behind. the dist+/dod250 and ocd all do this well. the fuck and mini do it even better.
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I have no idea what everyone's talking about Re:Fast/slow dirt, but based on context, I guess I've always been into "slow" dirt. :idk:
D+, Fuck, Big Muff, and pretty much all the usual "doom" dirt is what I've used.
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Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

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I like fast and slow, bright and warm, open and gated.
Fav is open, warm and somewhere between fast & slow.
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Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

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Harmonic Percolator can do both I think, when the clipping diode is out of the circuit it is pretty fast and articulate and with the clipping diode in it will squish things a little more.
Plus it reacts differently on chords opposed to single notes, I find it to be quite fast and articulate on chords but on single notes it seems to bloom a bit more.
Best of both worlds maybe. :)

I also agree with what waltdogg says about the OCD.
That's nice too indeed, an initial fast attack with some bloom at the end, as long as it has the initial fast attack I'm generally happy.
Almost all dirts in my arsenal have that attack though: Big D, Driving Notion, Harmonic Percolator, HM-2, MF Drive, OCD, Pharaoh, Pinkman
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Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

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sylnau wrote:
Tristan wrote:I strongly prefer a fast and heavy attack, give it to me straight up my face.
Would you consider the Caroline Wave Cannon Mk II one of those?
I think I only played the MKI but for that one would say definitely not (therefore I also didn't like it).
Most distortion / fuzz boxes aren't in the fast category for me to be completely honest though.
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Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

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Scruffie wrote:The HM-2 has some gating diodes (there's a technical term for what they do escaping me after several beers)
Got you, crossover distortion ;-)
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