There are a few reasons I've never been interested.
A) Shamelessly selling clones. It's not a big deal, but just one of the reasons I ignore his stuff.
B) Weird paint job with no control labels or graphics turn me off.
C) Vero. Really not into any pedals that use vero.
jrfox92 wrote:There are a few reasons I've never been interested.
A) Shamelessly selling clones. It's not a big deal, but just one of the reasons I ignore his stuff.
Wanna borrow some stuff to trace???
"I do not have the ability to think rationally 90% of the time and I also change my mind at the drop of a hat".
jrfox92 wrote:There are a few reasons I've never been interested.
A) Shamelessly selling clones. It's not a big deal, but just one of the reasons I ignore his stuff.
jrfox92 wrote:There are a few reasons I've never been interested.
A) Shamelessly selling clones. It's not a big deal, but just one of the reasons I ignore his stuff.
Wanna borrow some stuff to trace???
jrfox92 wrote:
Hell yeah, man.
I'm not selling it, though.
MechaGodzilla wrote:
why?
"I do not have the ability to think rationally 90% of the time and I also change my mind at the drop of a hat".
jrfox92 wrote:Really not into any pedals that use vero.
why?
Vero is perfectly good if the builder is competent and there's a significant saving over ordering a pcb for a couple builds. Might take up a little more room than perf, but the quality is the same.
A builder (mind you, I'm talking about someone that's regularly selling their products, not someone that builds a few one-offs and does custom work) using vero just seems amateurish to me.
I get the whole "but the price is different" argument, but with PCB's, turrets, and even perf, it almost always seems more professional, to me.
It's just the whole "this could be some random dude from a DIY forum that literally just learned how to build pedals" thing, I guess.
jrfox92 wrote:A builder (mind you, I'm talking about someone that's regularly selling their products, not someone that builds a few one-offs and does custom work) using vero just seems amateurish to me.
I get the whole "but the price is different" argument, but with PCB's, turrets, and even perf, it almost always seems more professional, to me.
It's just the whole "this could be some random dude from a DIY forum that literally just learned how to build pedals" thing, I guess.
I'm a little too new here so I'm just a no one, but you can get 12 PCB's for $15. I like Vero's as I can prototype easily a see them as the same as etched in terms of quality. Vero's are great, but yea PCB's always look better. (not trying to promote just showing the quality of the boards)
Why would a perf board build be any more professional than a vero board? At least on a vero, you are using (outside of jumpers) nice copper traces and not just jumpers and/or a bunch of ugly solder between the copper. Vero will even usually be more compact than straight perf.
What makes stuff like what is in that video look unprofessional is the fact that it's like 3-4 vero boards that are just floating in the enclosure, not really insulated or stuck anywhere to the enclosure (or sometimes to the back of the pots).
His builds could have nice PCBs and still look very bad if they were just floating around (like the early devi stuff).
The problem with built by ryan stuff is not the vero, it's the floating circuits and the rats maze of wires.