Empress: Echosystem

echorec · Post by **echorec** » Thu May 04, 2017 4:40 pm

So today's launch day, has anyone pulled the trigger yet?

Antlerface · Post by **Antlerface** » Thu May 04, 2017 9:17 pm

A few dude I know already ordered, someone was saying theirs should be here early next week. Looks sick, I wish I got along w pedals w lots of options.

worra · Post by **worra** » Thu May 04, 2017 9:52 pm

Mine arrives Wednesday. I'll try to have a video next weekendish.

damnableman · Post by **damnableman** » Thu May 04, 2017 10:40 pm

*edited. I'm a weiner. Petty complaints and worries.

damnableman · Post by **damnableman** » Fri May 05, 2017 12:00 am

peaches · Post by **peaches** » Fri May 05, 2017 6:56 am

I ordered from Rogue Guitar Shop (as did ruiner I think?) but I haven't heard anything about shipping yet.

mr. sound boy king · Post by **mr. sound boy king** » Fri May 05, 2017 11:24 am

I'd rather have nine $50 delay pedals than one $450 delay pedal. Imagine how much delay you could get out of nine delays... a lot more than 1.2 seconds.

Plus you could run up to nine delay modes at once and that is drugs.

echorec · Post by **echorec** » Fri May 05, 2017 11:55 am

mr. sound boy king wrote:I'd rather have nine $50 delay pedals than one $450 delay pedal. Imagine how much delay you could get out of nine delays... a lot more than 1.2 seconds.

Plus you could run up to nine delay modes at once and that is drugs.

I imagine you're half-joking, but I tried to do that years ago, and unfortunately effects just cancel each other out at a certain point.

ex: about 5 reverbs = insane sustain, washout
after that, you're effectively negating the weaker effects, or you're adding subtleties that could only be measured by machines, not by the human ear

ex: 2 Moog phasers = lush, delightful modulation
3 Moog phasers = you can barely tell there's a third one there

Here's an actual example, though, of 16 delays in series. ---Basically it sounds like about 3-5 pedals (delay/rev/delay, or delay/delay/rev or delay x 5, or rev/delay/delay/rev).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzv9g_NOE6I[/youtube]

mr. sound boy king · Post by **mr. sound boy king** » Fri May 05, 2017 12:51 pm

Yes, chaining 9 delays is a joke and I agree with your assessments. I hope all who acquire Echosystem find heretofore unknown delights.

echorec · Post by **echorec** » Fri May 05, 2017 1:30 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht6tGWD3ow4[/youtube]

tremolo3 · Post by **tremolo3** » Fri May 05, 2017 1:33 pm

echorec wrote: I imagine you're half-joking, but I tried to do that years ago, and unfortunately effects just cancel each other out at a certain point.

You don't stack that many effects IN SERIES into 1 (or even 2) amps. I'd get the 9 $50 delays, but I only have 5 amps.

echorec · Post by **echorec** » Fri May 05, 2017 1:54 pm

tremolo3 wrote:
echorec wrote: I imagine you're half-joking, but I tried to do that years ago, and unfortunately effects just cancel each other out at a certain point.
You don't stack that many effects IN SERIES into 1 (or even 2) amps. I'd get the 9 $50 delays, but I only have 5 amps.

I'd buy a calculator, a spectrograph, and some dehydrated ice cream, before I'd buy 9 amps.

echorec · Post by **echorec** » Thu May 11, 2017 11:10 pm

Finally, a little bit of Whisky & Stutter.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyKQQTau9f4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUjgtyt81Mo[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUWSsoIB4Kc[/youtube]

jrfox92 · Post by **jrfox92** » Thu May 11, 2017 11:53 pm

I don't know why, but the more demos there are of this, the less interested I become.
Honestly, I've never been a "delay machine" kind of guy, but something about this turns me off even more?

Maybe it's just that the difference between the cheapies and the expensive pedals is getting so indistinguishable that I just can't get excited about that stuff, anymore and I'm getting more into the idea that I should just buy a rack effect that's been this good for probably 20+ years, does tons more stuff, and is probably close to the same price as a new one of these?