Went from all boutique to mostly Boss

[Hobbes96]

iRerror is dope and you suck butts

[jrfox92]

I just don't see the point, however, of being militant about supporting "the little guy."

I think I'd rather be "militant" about that than a lot of other things. There aren't too many things really worth being militant about though.

After all, they're in business just like Boss is and their main goal, at the end of the day, is getting your money just like Boss is.

That's a huge oversimplification.

This.

Boss is nice when you don't need/want something insanely interesting, something that does what it does and does it well. If it were a choice between a "boutique" clone of a Boss and a Boss, I'd probably pick the Boss.

But it's not like Boss is the same as Brian or Ben and Louise or Ryan or Scott.
If you have questions about the pedals, you're not gonna talk to the guy that designed and built the thing. You're gonna talk to a representative, if you even get that far.
Boss doesn't have lifetime warranties on their pedals.
Boss won't make you a custom pedal.
The guys that run Boss don't have a day job and break even sometimes because they just like building pedals.
Boss isn't gonna be in BILF and ILFSS or have a Sharktank or be a hosted builder.

Boss is nice, but it's not fair to compare boutique pedal companies to a multi-national, multi-million dollar company.

[Ugly Nora]

Bro, can you check out my music linked in my sig and let me know what you think of it? I'd consider it a personal favor. Thanks.

[jrfox92]

You're not being baited at all.

I said music . While I can't identify at all with what I heard on the bandcamp site, I guess some people would call that music. To me it just sounded like the bleatings of kids who were all given 5th place trophies and told whatever they did was "special" and "unique."

[Benn Roe]

There definitely seem to be a lot of people on here who are really guarded against potential gear snobbery, sometimes accompanied by comments like "my board may not be full of hip pedals/the flavour of the week/etc.", but I rarely see any gear snobbery that isn't disguised as a defense against gear snobbery. If anything, using Boss pedals seems to be a hip anti-trend-turned-actual-trend on here.

Me, I was served well by an RV-5, DD-7, TR-2, PS-5, DF-2, etc., for years, but ultimately I realized that I didn't want so many buffers in my signal chain, and I just wasn't fully happy with the functionality and/or sound of those pedals. I still use a TU-3 on my bass board, and my guitar board recently adjusted to the presence of an ES-5, but I haven't found a lot of other Boss pedals that compare favourably with everything else that's out there. Until very recently, they just seemed set in their ways as a company, and there are so many other companies out there that haven't been settling for an arguably outdated standard all these years.

[Strange Tales]

so many people on here spend way too much on gear and HARDLY make music, i don't know what you'd call it. (irerror is a bad joke).

this place pisses me off. and you're right, boss is, in the end, often the way to go. sturdy and simple.

lol hm-2 clones.

why would you make music? music fucking sucks.

[Hobbes96]

I've really been into just straight up 440 hz sin waves recently, purest form of music imho. Anything else is a bit too try hard

[UglyCasanova]

Most Boss pedals are just too vanilla for me and what I like making. It's like asking for a sledgehammer and getting a squeaky plastic hammer. There are some good ones, like the RVs and DDs, but where the oscillating fuzzes at???

Fair enough bro. Luckily the music I am making doesn't require an oscillating fuzz. I'd actually like to hear music that is made with an oscillating fuzz. If you have any examples, please post.

iRERROR

https://irerror.bandcamp.com

I said music . While I can't identify at all with what I heard on the bandcamp site, I guess some people would call that music. To me it just sounded like the bleatings of kids who were all given 5th place trophies and told whatever they did was "special" and "unique."

You'll fit right in here. Like a glove. Welcome.

[resincum]

half of my board are boss pedals there's a buffer or something in my CE-3 that makes everything cut through the mix and sound fatter. kind of bugs me cause I always want it on but you can't completely dial out the chorus effect >_< mother fuckers are built for war too...


also
noise, not music

[Cisco]

I can't trust a guitar-player that doesn't openly use at least a few Boss pedals.

[BossMann73]

I just don't see the point, however, of being militant about supporting "the little guy."

I think I'd rather be "militant" about that than a lot of other things. There aren't too many things really worth being militant about though.

After all, they're in business just like Boss is and their main goal, at the end of the day, is getting your money just like Boss is.

That's a huge oversimplification.

This.

Boss is nice when you don't need/want something insanely interesting, something that does what it does and does it well. If it were a choice between a "boutique" clone of a Boss and a Boss, I'd probably pick the Boss.

But it's not like Boss is the same as Brian or Ben and Louise or Ryan or Scott.
If you have questions about the pedals, you're not gonna talk to the guy that designed and built the thing. You're gonna talk to a representative, if you even get that far.
Boss doesn't have lifetime warranties on their pedals.
Boss won't make you a custom pedal.
The guys that run Boss don't have a day job and break even sometimes because they just like building pedals.
Boss isn't gonna be in BILF and ILFSS or have a Sharktank or be a hosted builder.

Boss is nice, but it's not fair to compare boutique pedal companies to a multi-national, multi-million dollar company.

Meh, maybe I don't want a "relationship" with my "builder." I just want a pedal that does what it says it does without all the extra "boutique curator" bullshit. Luckily I don't have questions about a Boss pedal that can't be found with a simple internet search. Also, lifetime warranties don't matter to me all that much vis a vis Boss because the ones I have (all pushing 30 years old) still work like new.

Not looking to be confrontational here, but I've been thru the whole "curated" boutique scene and it left me wanting. Gimme simple, gimme mass-produced and gimme less beard hair and artsy fartsy crap! So many of my Boutique pedals had issues with lousy switches that broke at the worst time. My relationship with so many of these guys was really summed up by "I wanna throw their beautifully etched piece of crap in the trash."

[chrisdermo]

Oh SNAP

[BossMann73]

iRerror is dope and you suck butts

Lol! If you say so bro. I personally like melody, harmony, song structure and lyrics. You know.....one of those things called a SONG.

[fcknoise]

Loads of love for HM-2, RV-2/3, FZ-2, BF-2/3, HF-whatever, DC-3, DD-x, RE-20 etc etc around here. Boss has made great pedals. However I don't know what the point in comparing their pedals to an industry of small builders. Take the bitquest, ct5, eventide stuff, dwarfcraft, chase bliss etc and there is often little overlap. Depends on what you compare to and in this case idk if there is really any point. Use whatever suits you.

Like personally I wouldn't go on a forum as a new person and insult someone's band the first thing I did because I did other stuff myself.

[fcknoise]

Man I'd love for this thread not to spiral out of control and for you to become the aescher dude of boss pedals but at a certain point I know there will be no turning back