Setup of the day thread?

[John]

Here's what the fuck is going on: the PSM-5 effects loop pedals go through their own side of the stereo DL-8, set to loop mode. In parallel operation I can send two different signals, for example a drum machine in one and a noise rig in the other. When I record a loop the two instruments have their own tracks that are completely synced up, and I can punch them in and out individually with the PSM-5s because they bypass the DL-8 completely. In series operation, I can send a clean signal, bass for example, through one loop, sample it, and then send that to my bass effects board. That effected signal will go through the other side of the loop, get sampled with all the jiggy sounds of my bass board, and just like in parallel mode, not only are the two samples looping in sync, but i can also punch each one in and out. I have always been bummed with loopers because you either get a clean loop going through effects or an effected loop you can't alter, but not both.

I don't fully understand this, but I like it. Haven't really explored the stereo/weird dual signal possibilities with the DL-8, but I think I need to now.

DL-8 is two sonically separate loops that go at the same time, for the same time. The PSM-5s are just effect loops, so each one goes in and out of its individual side of the stereo looper. When either of the PSM-5 signal paths are deselected, they stop sending input audio to the DL-8, and also stop sending the output of the DL-8 to the amp. Kick it on again and it both plays back that side of the loop and opens the channel to record again if you stomp on the DL-8.


Side note: what I love about the Digitech Digidelay and DL-8 is that in Loop mode, you hold the pedal down while recording, and release to begin the loop. I find that less clumsy than tapping the pedal to begin and end the sample. No other loopers seem to function this way, though they all have more memory than these two.

[Uncle Grandfather]

karimba > moisturizer > coco
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everybody modulating everybody

[Uncle Grandfather]

[oscillateur]

Get more patch cables (and some smaller ones too) . The Black Market Modular ones are really nice, for example. A few stackcables would probably be useful too.

[Strange Tales]

ALL FUN AND NO VISIBLE VCAS. Someone on Muff is probably having a stroke right now.

[oscillateur]

I think the module on the right of the bottom row is a RxMix, which is a sort of voltage controlled mixer, at least. Pretty sure there are other ones in there .

[Uncle Grandfather]

Get more patch cables (and some smaller ones too) . The Black Market Modular ones are really nice, for example. A few stackcables would probably be useful too.

yeah, i got some 90cm stackables, those are great! gonna pick up some 75cm and 50cm stackables eventually.

ALL FUN AND NO VISIBLE VCAS. Someone on Muff is probably having a stroke right now.

do muffwigglers count lpg's as vca? there are four lpg there, and i guess the rxmx counts as 1 too. guess the mangrove's vca aren't really visable. hey i've got six vca on my IFM row oh wait those cold mac are vca too

edit: oh yeah, there's a vca on that serge vcm too....so that's 10 vca on two of those rows if we count them lpg.

[rustywire]

And I rarely recommend [it] but get some insurance too @U_G

[Uncle Grandfather]

And I rarely recommend [it] but get some insurance too @U_G

yepp, all those photos I post of new gear in the GAS thread were taken for insurance purposes

[Uncle Grandfather]

wait...I'm pretty sure the Maths and DUSG and SSG can all be used as lpg too. so that's like 15 VCA on two rows, wouldn't Muff's be proud

edit: jeesh, got curious and just counted all the vca in my euro and i'm pretty sure I've got like 31 if i count using the maths/dusg/ssg/sport mod as vca too....guess i've got that covered well wait...that's not even counting the 4 on the veils i plan on ordering soon

[colossus]

Maths as LPG?? Wut. Tell me.

[Uncle Grandfather]

Maths as LPG?? Wut. Tell me.

right on page 18 of the manual gives a patch for using it as a pseudo-vca
http://www.makenoisemusic.com/content/m ... al2013.pdf
"Patch audio signal to CH. 1, with RISE and FALL at full CCW, or cycle CH. 1 at audio rate. Take output from SUM out. Set initial level
with CH. 1 panel control. Set CH. 2 panel control full CW to generate a 10v oset. Audio will start to clip and may become silent. If
it's still audible, apply an additional positive oset with CH. 3 panel control until it is just silent. Set CH. 4 panel control to full CCW
and apply envelope to Signal IN, or generate envelope with CH. 4. This patch creates a VCA with asymmetrical clipping in the
waveform. It will work with CV also, but be sure to adjust CV input settings to deal with the large base oset. The INV output may
be more useful in some situations."

here's another example using the serge DUSG as vca, maths is based on the dusg
"How can this module act as a filter? It slew-limits the high frequency components of the incoming signal, at a rate set by rise and fall knobs, and VC. If the rise and fall knobs are set fully clockwise (fastest rate), filtering will be audibly minimal, seeing as the Slope Generator is responding rapidly to input. Turning rise and fall knobs counterclockwise increases the response time, and high frequency content at the output will decrease. Turn them fully counterclockwise and audio output will be minimal. So feed this thing a low harmonic content waveform like a sine or triangle, and you've got a rough equivalent VCA!"

i was using an IFM Swoop, which is based on the DUSG too, as a sorta vca the other night. i wanted to use the cv/gate from a ribbon synth to control an IFM Denum vco using its linear and expo inputs. Patched the cv to the linear, and the gate to trigger the Swoop which was patched to the expo input. Worked great!

[Strange Tales]

Yea those aren't Low Pass Gates. Low Pass Gates rely entirely on beautiful, awful vactrols.

Either way, using those as VCAs is useful, but then you're shutting down those modules to rudimentary functions when they could be doing so much more, especially since you can get billions of VCAs in a small HP format.

[Uncle Grandfather]

right, thanks. i'm not so hip on the lingo. i've read using theses modules like this as being a "crude" vca. its acting like a lowpass filter, and a vca

[Strange Tales]

Yea, Low Pass Gates are weird, but really cool designs and functions by Thomas Buchla.

Cached reddit post (cause it's blocked at work) that has a lot of good info on it:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/ ... clnk&gl=us