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Though for posterity i want to point out that the crowd were waiting for lamb of god and anthrax...who are fucking awful.

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Well, Anthrax >>>> Deafheaven.

[Iommic Pope]

That is pretty much to be expected from a LoG audience, I would think.
Pretty funny.

[Inconuucl]

Regardless of how a band sounds, this is pretty shitty.

[D.o.S.]

I go back and forth on that.

It's abhorrent behavior, sure, but dealing with hecklers is part and parcel of being a live band, particularly a live metal band that purports to trade in extreme emotions, which is sort of the raison d'etre of most black metal, eh? Fucking make the audience think you'll stab them and throw them through a window if they boo.

[Iommic Pope]

^This.
And don't suck.

[D.o.S.]

I just default to a passage from Eugene Robinson's Fight 1) because I'm a total fanboy and B) because I firmly believe this to be true but if you are going to be in the sort of band that gets an opening slot for Anthrax and Lamb of God and other outlets for unaddressed Cro-Magnon aggression then it probably behooves you to adopt some manner of the following:

Oxbow is all band, and if you were looking for four musicians more serious about
playing the music they play, you couldn't find any. Serious. Pretentious. Portentous. It is
not easy music to play. Unfortunately this means that in concert the most important thing
for us is the playing of that music. Not the fact that you want to show your friends how
funny it is to piss off the Negro with the knife on stage in his underwear by screaming
shit at him that would get you largely the same treatment streetside sans the amps, the
speakers, and all the rest. In any case, because disrespect seems to beget disrespect, if
you don't want to hear the music and you don't want us to play the music we're being
paid to play, well, it seems that leaves very little doubt as to what you really want: to
get to know us better. Closer. More intimately. And you will.

There was an evolution to this position. It occurred one night when a "friend" taunted
us the whole show. Because he was a "friend," we gave him a pass. But after the show
it felt so bad, like we had failed as musicians and artists, that we decided to NEVER,
EVER again ignore the reality of the moment. To never ignore the hereness and the
nowness of this Zen two-step between you and us. And so it goes: We're engaged
in the collective creation of a piece of art. It's as egalitarian as it gets. Everyone participates.
For good or ill.

But the most important thing to note here is when playing a show, we'd always rather
just finish playing the show than fight. (That is the collective WE.) And when fighting a
fight we'd always rather just finish fighting the fight than play the show.

That, I believe, is the sort of attitude you have to adopt if you want to be in a successful aggressive (musical or otherwise) live musical act. And I say this as a mostly happy dude who rarely gets into fights and enjoys/inevitably loses them whenever they occur: you have to sort of believe in what you're to that degree once/if you get big enough to play somewhere outside a Dase-sanctioned safe space or whatever where everyone is going to hold hands and reserve their shit talking for the quiet moments later.

Love you Dase.

[D.o.S.]

or if you don't like reading, this is what you should do if you get heckled:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rRjyJhqnU0[/youtube]

[Iommic Pope]

I laughed at the Dase-sanctioned safe space.
Possibly a bit too much.
He's a champ.

Regarding Oxbow: they don't suck.

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Dude don't you miss the oxbow newsletter??

[D.o.S.]

Yassss

[qnn-mdfssr]

disregard Deafheaven.

http://www.ray-ban.com/usa/courage/face ... deafheaven

[D.o.S.]

From behind their computer screens, these keyboard-critics find that Deafheaven sully the genre’s sanctity by making it more palatable—by taking a purposefully unapproachable form of music and making it accessible, by commodifying an underground art, by making it inclusive rather than exclusive, by swapping out its mystique for a clearly-defined face, by effectively complicating it.

Well that and they're just not very good.

[More_Divebombs]

It doesn't look like they got booed off. Just booed between songs. Quite a spin on things. They should have learned after the first song, and just played the rest of their slot with no silence. Don't give boo-boys the opportunity to boo. Instruments are louder. Or try to communicate with a heckler, and then just pinch-harmonic over him when he tries to respond.


Despite anyone's opinion on the band, surely you'd side with them over members of the audience using the word "faggot". Fuck those guys.