After this's all over, I hope the U.S. gov't bills Trump for the damage he's done to our reputation

[Invisible Man]

Pretty sure no one in the era of American superpower (the last hundred or hundred and twenty years) has really been qualified to do the job. What kind of megalomaniacal buckala thinks he or she deserves to be the most powerful person on the planet? But it exists, so someone has to do it or something.

[D.o.S.]

I think you should reread my post (or actually read my post, take your pick).

[rustywire]

Rustywire: ok, I'll fuck off telling you what to do with your vote when you get off your arse and do something about it yourself instead of pissing and moaning that it wasn't your problem to begin with. Don't take that personally, but it's that sort of apathy en masse that got you guys where you are today.
Coupled with that whole "don't tell me not to do stupid things, I'm American!" Shit that you guys (again, en masse) are great at espousing, like its a valid argument to do anything. At all. Ever.
Sorry, but I have a fairly firm belief that the climate of apathy and stupidity (as DoS mentioned) has bought your country to the point where somebody from outside has to grab you like a crackhead relative and tell you to get your shit together, you aren't welcome at Christmas anymore. And put some fucking pants on!

End old man rant.

Ayy I aint mad at ya. I've been characterized as "being hard to read" and accused of doing it deliberately...but AFAIC much of it is functional illiteracy and bias clouding attempts at comprehension. I also screwup, a lot, with a single keyword that can completely alter intent of message. Anyone looking to me for answers, especially those they want to hear...is all but guaranteed disappointment. You must recognize the powerlessness to influence my decision, and that is an overarching point I've tried to illustrate. No pissing & moaning, I'll just throw away your opinion along with my vote if I feel like it's an exercise in futility. Nothing personal. I'll go about my biz and make a difference how I best see fit. Not trying to be contentious, fact is we may never even meet and rub elbows off this forum. Don't assume you know what's best. Similarly I'm not going to tell you how to live.
It isn't productive to keep anger, hatred, resentment in your heart. Especially for people you've never met, ESPECIALLY when you've only a faint idea what you're talking about based on perception drawn from tailored information designed to keep you distracted, angry & fearful. Burdening yourself with stress over things you cant control isn't going to help 'fix' anything.

"Don't tell me not to do stupid things, I'm American!" is distorting my point, a universal truth, with prejudicial spin of anti-American sentiment. Once again, telling someone not to do something/they cant do something/or what they should do is never well-received. Globally. It typically results in counterproductive spite. Humans don't like being told how to live their lives, especially by strangers who are likely to gloss over detail and nuance one notices by actually living it & walking in their shoes. Academics and self-styled intellectuals are proud to fancy, present themselves as being experienced masters of reality. But "It's Impossible To Learn To Plough By Reading Books"

[D.o.S.]

Contrarily, telling someone that they won't be able to influence your thoughts through discourse is always well received.

[rustywire]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMeZCPbM6bA[/youtube]

[cherler]

Has anyone talked about Single Transferable Vote vs First Past the Post in here? This thread is huge.

[D.o.S.]

I know we have before. Maybe not in this thread.

[cherler]

I know it will never happen, but that's some reform I would love to see. You could put whatever third party candidate warms your heart or makes you feel righteous down, and as long as your list ends with Hillary and doesn't ever say Trump, you're still voting against Trump.

[Strange Tales]

Buy Gold. Vote for Gary Johnson. Become rich.

[Invisible Man]

I have no idea why I always read this thread.

But...

[jrfox92]

Former Obama mentor: Trump's Russian hack 'jokes' could 'constitute treason'
Fuck it.
I'm done.
If being a sarcastic motherfucker is treasonous then maybe that government deserves to be overthrown.

This election really gets to me.
When the media and democrats are being so fucking crazy that I have to defend Trump, then it's clear this election is the biggest shitshow this country has ever faced.

[Chankgeez]

Joke or not, it was inappropriate.

Maybe those Russian hackers could also give us a look at Trump's tax return?

[D.o.S.]

Former Obama mentor: Trump's Russian hack 'jokes' could 'constitute treason'
Fuck it.
I'm done.
If being a sarcastic motherfucker is treasonous then maybe that government deserves to be overthrown.

This election really gets to me.
When the media and democrats are being so fucking crazy that I have to defend Trump, then it's clear this election is the biggest shitshow this country has ever faced.

And of course the possibility that Tribe was being hyperbolic or sarcastic doesn't surface?

His Ted Cruz piece for the Globe (which is linked in the article) is phenomenal. You should read it.

[jrfox92]

Joke or not, it was inappropriate.

So?
This is Trump we're talking about here.
It's not like him saying something like this is really a massive surprise, he says shit like this all the time.
The difference is that this is just something the DNC can use to deflect from the fact that they fixed the primaries.

Maybe those Russian hackers could also give us a look at Trump's tax return?

I'm all for it.

And of course the possibility that Tribe was being hyperbolic or sarcastic doesn't surface?

His Ted Cruz piece for the Globe (which is linked in the article) is phenomenal. You should read it.

Perhaps, but it's not like he's the only one saying it.
And it's not like the others aren't being serious.

[Inconuucl]

Former Obama mentor: Trump's Russian hack 'jokes' could 'constitute treason'
Fuck it.
I'm done.
If being a sarcastic motherfucker is treasonous then maybe that government deserves to be overthrown.

This election really gets to me.
When the media and democrats are being so fucking crazy that I have to defend Trump, then it's clear this election is the biggest shitshow this country has ever faced.

People have lost all support in the election for saying a lot less. Trump gets away with a lot of it because it's somehow expected of him to do so.