Pedals you wish were reissued

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coupleonapkins wrote: Still my favorite pedal, even though I don't own one currently :facepalm: - however, like most of the things I'd want to be reissued, it's the layout & ergonomics of the thing that is so pleasing to me, let alone what it can do within its limitations (so good!). Big boxes are so passé in the true bypass era of pedaltrains & nanoboards that I don't even think it would ever stand a chance. But along with a Big Muff or Rat & a volume knob, most people probably wouldn't need anything else on the floor (well.....maaaaaaybe a Judder :D ).
Well yeah, i've honestly kind of stopped following the pedalboard wankery the past year. A DMM/Rat pairing sounds perfect to me right now :drool:
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echorec wrote:There aren't many pedals I want to see reissued, because I like them being esoteric and difficult to come by.


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That's how I feel. If you don't like it, piss off.
I don't like it. It's a very bourgeois and entitled attitude.
I didn't say anything about economics or deliberately denying people from gear, but some things are rare because they're only truly appreciated by the eccentric. Therefore certain items remain sacred only to those who are truly passionate about the obscure and are willing to dedicate the necessary effort to investigate a particular discipline. That's not anti-Marxist; it's romantic and sentimental. One who treasures the esoteric due to a lifetime of exploration is not to blame for another's nescience.
It's inherently fascist to deny someone something because you don't think they should have it. And it's incredibly bourgeois to praise something because it's exclusive to those who can afford it.
There's nothing fascist in suggesting that the eccentric love the obscure more than the general public. That's a social observation, not a comment on economic policies or theories. Again, I'll point out for you that there's nothing in the quoted passage which advocates denying anyone anything. I didn't praise anything for being desirable due to is scarcity either. It really makes for an unpleasant exchange, when one party only wants to attack his own unsubstantiated conclusions.
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echorec wrote: There's nothing fascist in suggesting that the eccentric love the obscure more than the general public. That's a social observation, not a comment on economic policies or theories. Again, I'll point out for you that there's nothing in the quoted passage which advocates denying anyone anything. I didn't praise anything for being desirable due to is scarcity either. It really makes for an unpleasant exchange, when one party only wants to attack his own unsubstantiated conclusions.
I've been very consistent, so, I could hardly be said to be arguing against myself. Also, I'm not the one who posted in praise of keeping pedals restricted, in a thread who's intent is the exact opposite.
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echorec wrote: There's nothing fascist in suggesting that the eccentric love the obscure more than the general public. That's a social observation, not a comment on economic policies or theories. Again, I'll point out for you that there's nothing in the quoted passage which advocates denying anyone anything. I didn't praise anything for being desirable due to is scarcity either. It really makes for an unpleasant exchange, when one party only wants to attack his own unsubstantiated conclusions.
I've been very consistent, so, I could hardly be said to be arguing against myself. Also, I'm not the one who posted in praise of keeping pedals restricted, in a thread who's intent is the exact opposite.
You've been very consistent on criticizing assumptions----assumptions you introduced, not my actual stated views or comments.
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Something being esoteric and something being scarce are not the same thing. I have no way of appreciating a vintage big box dmm because there is no way I'm going to be in a position to drop that much cash on a delay. That has literally nothing to do with my ability to appreciate an obscure pedal. It's just plain economics.
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goroth wrote:Something being esoteric and something being scarce are not the same thing. I have no way of appreciating a vintage big box dmm because there is no way I'm going to be in a position to drop that much cash on a delay. That has literally nothing to do with my ability to appreciate an obscure pedal. It's just plain economics.
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If I absolutely needed something, I'd find a way to make it happen, even if it was absurd as a real Klon.

But realistically, I found my sounds in the cast-offs of the time (Fender Mustangs that were a hundred bucks a pop, Space Echoes used as shop doorstops, etc).

That they're "valuable" now is something I don't understand but...
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I do wish the Digitech PDS delays would be released with better footswitches / bypass / powersource / layout.

EDIT: though maybe I should just get it together and buy a used Timebender...
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I can't really afford much collectable music gear, so I'm always interested in prices getting cheaper for things I want.

At the same time, I like to have unique gear. That's part of why I like ILF over TGP - I find out about smaller builders and cool gear I hadn't known about. It's cool when someone sees your setup/hears you play and says "what is that??" or "how did you get that crazy sound?"

Maybe it's the hipster in me, but I prefer to have gear that isn't as popular and used by a bunch of people. I could understand the frustration of being one of the first guys to use a weird /cool vintage effect, with all its imperfections and fragility, only to see it be reissued and see a million other guitarists now using that same effect that you had worked so hard for and spent so much time trying to get.
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aholidayatthesea wrote:I can't really afford much collectable music gear, so I'm always interested in prices getting cheaper for things I want.

At the same time, I like to have unique gear. That's part of why I like ILF over TGP - I find out about smaller builders and cool gear I hadn't known about. It's cool when someone sees your setup/hears you play and says "what is that??" or "how did you get that crazy sound?"

Maybe it's the hipster in me, but I prefer to have gear that isn't as popular and used by a bunch of people. I could understand the frustration of being one of the first guys to use a weird /cool vintage effect, with all its imperfections and fragility, only to see it be reissued and see a million other guitarists now using that same effect that you had worked so hard for and spent so much time trying to get.
The funny thing about prices...they aren't necessarily indicative of quality design or superior solutions. While there is a lot of truth in "you get what you pay for" there's an equal amount in "a fool and money are soon parted". Just look at how many different overpriced TS-style pedals get gobbled up and paraded around TGP to posture soon as a newly repackaged & hyped version hits the market. Like clockwork.

Nothing wrong with wanting to do things differently or carve out your own special little niche. That's also my preference & how my gear locker has developed, although I do enjoy seeing what I can coax out of familiar, readily available gear. In addition to landing-on numerous "there are others similar to it but none quite like mine" pedals in my fx stash...there are industry standards & ubiquitous solutions, as well. However the 2 essential things other players will NEVER have are my ears & hands. There are some things money just cant buy :hobbes:
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rustywire wrote: Just look at how many different overpriced TS-style pedals ...
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Hammett is on the cheap end of that market!
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