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i think some of the early stuff was good.
first RATM, incubus science...
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space6oy wrote:i think some of the early stuff was good.
first RATM, incubus science...
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all of RATM :idk:
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Heretic. RATM still slays (OK). Incubus (even S.C.I.E.N.C.E.) doesn't really seem like rap-rock to me, but it's been a decade since I listened, so...dunno.

On paper, Incubus is the worst band of all time. I think Boyd said that in an interview. Riff-y guitars, slap bass, 'funky' drums, a DJ, and a dreadlocked rapper/singer from southern California who loves Mr. Bungle.
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Invisible Man wrote:Heretic. RATM still slays (OK). Incubus (even S.C.I.E.N.C.E.) doesn't really seem like rap-rock to me, but it's been a decade since I listened, so...dunno.

On paper, Incubus is the worst band of all time. I think Boyd said that in an interview. Riff-y guitars, slap bass, 'funky' drums, a DJ, and a dreadlocked rapper/singer from southern California who loves Mr. Bungle.
Yeah I think you will want to reassess Incubus at some point (or don't, because then you would have to listen to Incubus). It, uh, has aged really badly -- perhaps for reasons that your "on paper" band is indistinguishable from 311... which says it all, really. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I used to like Incubus a lot (still probably would, just haven't listened to them in months) and the best thing they have done was stop doing the raprock thing. Which I liked anyway but like... going for more of the indie rock thing made them a better and more interesting, less bro band i'd say :idk:

there are cringeworthy songs for sure

there are also awesome songs :idk: but yeah, totally agree about that on paper thing. Reality is much better though
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Also, Rage against the Machine is the exception that proves the rule because they were essentially a rap group with live/standard 'rock' instrumentation, as opposed to the bands that just did radio rock with rapping.
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D.o.S. wrote:Also, Rage against the Machine is the exception that proves the rule because they were essentially a rap group with live/standard 'rock' instrumentation, as opposed to the bands that just did radio rock with rapping.
This is spot-on. I've actually said this before, that that was what made them different.

Incubus is actually great, and I don't see how they haven't held up well. Half of the band is cringe and half of it is beautiful. "Frameworks of taste rely on dumb and great things to exist in concert with one another," as Mr. Lopatin noted. You just have to let Mr. Boyd be who he is. The archetypal art-school-dropout shirtless bucket-hat-wearing recreational-drug-taking lily-white dirt-'stached manslut surfer-bum rockstar. He manages to elevate it. Like if you truly own being whatever you are you can make it art, whatever it is.

Also, on the down-low, one of the most influential singers of all time. No one will acknowledge it. But everybody hears it.
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D.o.S. wrote:Also, Rage against the Machine is the exception that proves the rule because they were essentially a rap group with live/standard 'rock' instrumentation, as opposed to the bands that just did radio rock with rapping.
This is spot-on. I've actually said this before, that that was what made them different.

Incubus is actually great, and I don't see how they haven't held up well. Half of the band is cringe and half of it is beautiful. "Frameworks of taste rely on dumb and great things to exist in concert with one another," as Mr. Lopatin noted. You just have to let Mr. Boyd be who he is. The archetypal art-school-dropout shirtless bucket-hat-wearing recreational-drug-taking lily-white dirt-'stached manslut surfer-bum rockstar. He manages to elevate it. Like if you truly own being whatever you are you can make it art, whatever it is.

Also, on the down-low, one of the most influential singers of all time. No one will acknowledge it. But everybody hears it.
You kept going on about Boyd and I was waiting for one of the adjectives to just not work but they were all spot on. Really hit a dinger there, bud.
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casecandy wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:Also, Rage against the Machine is the exception that proves the rule because they were essentially a rap group with live/standard 'rock' instrumentation, as opposed to the bands that just did radio rock with rapping.
This is spot-on. I've actually said this before, that that was what made them different.

Incubus is actually great, and I don't see how they haven't held up well. Half of the band is cringe and half of it is beautiful. "Frameworks of taste rely on dumb and great things to exist in concert with one another," as Mr. Lopatin noted. You just have to let Mr. Boyd be who he is. The archetypal art-school-dropout shirtless bucket-hat-wearing recreational-drug-taking lily-white dirt-'stached manslut surfer-bum rockstar. He manages to elevate it. Like if you truly own being whatever you are you can make it art, whatever it is.

Also, on the down-low, one of the most influential singers of all time. No one will acknowledge it. But everybody hears it.
greatly put about the stereotype

totally wrong about the influence. If anything, I hear him as influenced, not influential ;)
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casecandy wrote:Also, on the down-low, one of the most influential singers of all time. No one will acknowledge it. But everybody hears it.
I'm sure this isn't correct in the slightest.
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D.o.S. wrote:
casecandy wrote:Also, on the down-low, one of the most influential singers of all time. No one will acknowledge it. But everybody hears it.
I'm sure this isn't correct in the slightest.
Well, I want to hear this explained, anyway. Care to say more, ContainerSweets? Where do you hear Boyd-isms?
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LMAO summer's just begun and he's already trying to keep the cool lecturer vibe going.
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