Pedalboard Building - A Desperate Cry for Help

[HighDeaf1080p]

Team,

I may never recover from the PTSD I've suffered at the frustration and disappointment my Temple Audio board has caused. When I first saw it, I thought it was most brilliant...a modular board system that allowed you to easily move pedals around and rearrange, without the use of the most horrific substance on earth...Velcro. Just metal brackets locking into place.

Nothing worked out the way I had hoped...huge challenges getting the power solution on board...HORRIBLE access to the brackets that hold on the pedals (making moving a pedal a nightmare)...I'm having zero luck routing the patch cables underneath the board (partly because of the mass of power implements under there, and partly because my pedals cover up all convenient holes thru which to route them)...Maybe I'm just stupid, but I cannot work this thing the way I had hoped to. Did I just buy too small of one? I have the DUO 34...maybe I needed the TRIO 34?

When I look at it and even think about tearing it back apart and trying again, I can feel the delicate fibers of my sanity fraying dangerously...but the spaghetti mass of cables curling everywhere and preventing access to footswitches and knobs, that just generally looks like a schizophrenic trainwreck also makes me want to down a fifth of whiskey.

A couple questions:

1. Is anyone here successfully utilizing the temple audio board the way it is designed to be used, with just clean gleaming pedals and very little else showing from the top side...and easy access to move things around and change routing?
2. After everyone answers no to the first question, what brand have YOU had great luck with, that you think I should look into when I finally snap and throw this thing in the garbage? Something that doesn't require Velcro?

Thank you for listening.

[D.o.S.]

Dodging velcro is going to be tough.

[HighDeaf1080p]

If it MUST be Velcro...If we've really come down to THAT...is there some kind of industrial adhesive (even if it requires a special permit to acquire) that will actually stay stuck to the back of a pedal and a board, regardless of temperature and environmental concerns?

[UglyCasanova]

[HighDeaf1080p]

Haha! That's just as much pain in the ass when I want to rearrange, cutting all my zip ties, and then re-zip-tying everything down.

What we need is a pedalboard system that uses strong magnets. The trick would be to get the magnets strength right (light enough to allow lifting the pedal off the board when needed...but strong enough to hold the pedal in place when stomping the footswitches)...then using 3M double stick tape to attach them to the pedal. Maybe I need to invent this and retire on the proceeds.

[Casavettes]

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/e ... /?MDR=true

You need velcro like this then

[HighDeaf1080p]

By Jove, you may have found my answer!!

[Casavettes]

Use it at work, its the good shit.

[lordgalvar]

Get galvanized of copper pipe clamps and flatten them (or make your own brackets...or find something like that). 1/4" or 3/8" pipe clamps would work best (smallest you can find). Put a rubber washer between it and the pedal (where the bottom plate attaches) and drill holes for board placement. Attach with sheet metal or wood screws. Get any pedal board or make one. Or get replacement bottom plates for them all and bolt/screw those in place. Get cheap angle iron from a scrap yard and make some wood ends. (I have other ideas, but it would involve a good investment).



If you have to use Velcro, I have found the stuff that is for outdoor electrical applications to be the best. It isn't hook and loop; it kind of looks like barbs or some kind of polearm blade (light gray in color).

Magnets would be bad.

[UglyCasanova]

Haha! That's just as much pain in the ass when I want to rearrange, cutting all my zip ties, and then re-zip-tying everything down.

What we need is a pedalboard system that uses strong magnets. The trick would be to get the magnets strength right (light enough to allow lifting the pedal off the board when needed...but strong enough to hold the pedal in place when stomping the footswitches)...then using 3M double stick tape to attach them to the pedal. Maybe I need to invent this and retire on the proceeds.

I don't think electronics and magnets are the best of friends. Magnet, how do they work?

[HighDeaf1080p]

LOL...fair point.

[JonnyAngle]

I think Pedaltrain takes the cake. I love the ample room between the slats.

Still rocking the big V though

[ChetMagongalo]

If it MUST be Velcro...If we've really come down to THAT...is there some kind of industrial adhesive (even if it requires a special permit to acquire) that will actually stay stuck to the back of a pedal and a board, regardless of temperature and environmental concerns?

I've never had this issue with velcro, maybe you had a bad experience and blind to the fact that velcro is amazing for pedalboards, also paying money for a board is dumb, making your own is easy even if you aren't that handy. and its fun! but lots of people buy pedalboards so maybe I'm wrong

[HighDeaf1080p]

maybe you had a bad experience and blind to the fact that velcro is amazing for pedalboards

You have no idea just how bad or how many times. Velcro is DEAD to me. DEAD I TELL YOU. DEAD!!!!

[resincum]

If it MUST be Velcro...If we've really come down to THAT...is there some kind of industrial adhesive (even if it requires a special permit to acquire) that will actually stay stuck to the back of a pedal and a board, regardless of temperature and environmental concerns?

I've never had this issue with velcro, maybe you had a bad experience and blind to the fact that velcro is amazing for pedalboards, also paying money for a board is dumb, making your own is easy even if you aren't that handy. and its fun! but lots of people buy pedalboards so maybe I'm wrong

truth! this thing cost $10 in materials (before velcro). I use industrial velcro from home depot and never have problems. possible to remove from the pedal without any gunk, too!