HM-2 vs MT-2

[Pepe]

I bet it sounds awesome with these knob positions!

[coupleonapkins]

I bet it sounds awesome with these knob positions!

Besides the YMMV/big dumb clone build quality, it's essentially as close as you can get for $25 to the HM-2 (still around $75+ at the moment, + for Japanese, - for Taiwanese versions). The Mid knob is a little more touchy than an actual HM-2, but besides that, it gets the job done (especially if you max out all the knobs the same way you would on an actual HM-2, anyway), but then again, I think all of the Boss Metal iterations have something to offer, even if they progressively become more buzzy & piercing as you progress through the model numbers (Hyper Metal & Digital Metalizer, for instance, are more useful than you'd think, just like the Metal Zone).

[rfurtkamp]

I used a HM2 back in the day not as a chainsaw but because it was the best thing I ever got my hands on to goose a Space Echo. Bass up almost all the way, gain about half, treble adjust for guitar.

[gaussgunn]

HM2 TILL DEATH

[Boxbie]

Alrighty!

So I'm getting one has indie cred (swervedriver, various "seminal" metal acts), and he other has a parametric mids control.

I inherited an mt-2, and it sounds like chaos AD era Sepultura. Which is fine by me. Certainly not wall of wasps doom fuzz.

I'll put the HM2 on the shopping list.

Thanks for your contributions to my education.

[rfurtkamp]

HM-2 was a staple of the weird music scene. It was the only pedal available at the timeish that had that level of gain and didn't buzz like a dead corpse with flies when you stopped playing. Didn't hurt either they were $30 used then!

[Gone Fission]

I got my MIT HM-2 for $25 in the last few years, so not impossible to get a deal.

Weird music and normal stuff. Gilmour used one in the 80s, for example. It came out when EHX had folded and before Sovtek Muffs started, so it might have been filling that niche for some people.

Most interesting thing about the Metal Zone may be that parametric eq. I've heard of a tone god to blooz lawyers using one clean or -ish to pre-eq a Soldano SL-fucking-O. Parametrics do give you enough power to fuck things up bad in a lot of cases, though, so go figure the amount of user error that runs roughshod over the landscape when a popular pedal aimed at that genre has that bug, er, feature.

(It might be really fun to build an HM-2 clone with the normal post-dirt eq and the MT-2's mid-band pre-dirt, maybe stomp switchable.)

[misterstomach]

it's worth noting that an hm2 is actually totally worth the $60-100 they go for these days. MIJ or MIT both rule, and being an old boss pedal it will probably last forever or be easy to fix if it doesn't. the behringer will definitely not last too long and probably won't sound as good.

[rfurtkamp]

Yea, while I'm not a MIJ fanboy, the HM-2 in any of its variant/country of origin is pretty damn low noise for what it is.

I live in fear of how much of a buzzing bee of hell that the Behringer is.

[hbombgraphics]

You guys are always making me want a HM-2 and then I go look them up and they aren't even cheap! I probably need to troll eBay for a while or something

just put it on your short list

I got my last one for cheaper than normal

Guy said it didn't work right (LED was dim) but all the cool kids know this isn't a real problem.

if you don't need it just wait for the right sale and snag one,


MT-2 Is not a bad pedal you can get great and just total crap sounds out of it,



Grapefruits are not better than apples though, that is bullshit

[rfurtkamp]

LED on them is almost always dim!

[hbombgraphics]

yep but it saved me 40 bucks

one on reverb right now for 85
that's not too bad

[ognoy]

I bought a HM-2 for about 30$ couple of years ago. It had been sitting in the window of a little music shop in my home town/village for years. Always though it was a MT-2 untill I had e propper look.
Sold it some years later and regrets it.

Never owned a MT-2, but of course lots of my guitar playing mates had one in their teens.
But in those days we had crap guitars(cheap Ibanez/Epiphone/affinity Squires), crap amps(Marshall MG/etc), played crap music, didn't know how tweak our gear and we didn't really play that good too. So it would be interesting to try one out now with a different perspective on tone, music and better gear and chops.

[Jero]

MT-2 Is not a bad pedal you can get great and just total crap sounds out of it,

Grapefruits are not better than apples though, that is bullshit

[rfurtkamp]

But in those days we had crap guitars(cheap Ibanez/Epiphone/affinity Squires), crap amps(Marshall MG/etc), played crap music, didn't know how tweak our gear and we didn't really play that good too. So it would be interesting to try one out now with a different perspective on tone, music and better gear and chops.

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