Tele wiring question

[neonblack]

Hey all! I found a tele control plate for one knob and I want to wire my baritone up for a 4 way switch and a tone knob but no volume. Is this possible? I see wiring diagrams but nothing about bypassing the volume knob.

Ideally I would want a switch to add/remove the tone cap from the circuit so when it was removed it would just go pickups straight to output.

Any advice?

[fcknoise]

I don't know exactly, but wouldn't wiring the wires that usually go to the vol pot just directly to the jack work? I built a weird lap steel kinda thing and it had no knobs, just directly to the pot and it worked fine. I've never built anything that wasn't at least 30% fucked up so I am not a great source

[neonblack]

I feel like it shouldn't be hard. But in most diagrams it goes to the volume first then the tone so I don't know how to reroute the ones that normally go to volume.

[crochambeau]

Can you post a datasheet on the switch you are going to install?

[neonblack]

I don't really know. I'm getting a 4 way tele switch but I was trying to put the tone on a standard spst(?) Toggle switch.

[crochambeau]

I'm pretty sure you'd want to swap the outside legs from my fast and dirty modification (sorry, not going back to re-edit that, consider it a conceptual rendition from the front side). This will also remove the 500K (or whatever it is) load the wide open standard volume control, you might consider just tacking a fixed resistor between hot and ground if the instrument is too bright. As always, alligator clips are your friend.

[neonblack]

Awesome! I'll probably just stick with a tone pot. Unless I could just sub a switch in your diagram.

where would I put the resistor?

Sorry dudes, n00b city over here.

[neonblack]

Also those spots where the red wire ends in a circle. Is that ground?

[crochambeau]

Also those spots where the red wire ends in a circle. Is that ground?

That's the SPST switch that puts the tone in circuit (you wanted that, right?), ground is the mess of green wires.

IF you need it, just stick the resistor on the two legs of the 1/4" jack, you might prefer it without. Size of resistor would be a matter of taste, though I'd guess it would be something between 100K & 1M.

[DRodriguez]

If you want to get fancy, use a push/pull pot instead of a switch.

[neonblack]

so my first post may have been confusing. I'm looking for a way to have no tone knob or volume knob, just one switch to bring the tone cap in or out of the circuit. Is that possible?

If not, I'll try one of these other options. Like that push/pull pot...

[DRodriguez]

You should then do a rotary multi capacitor thing. That way you can use various caps depending on the tone you want.

Also, you should be able to do just a one switch, all or nothing.

[waltdogg]

You should then do a rotary multi capacitor thing. That way you can use various caps depending on the tone you want.

Also, you should be able to do just a one switch, all or nothing.

DO IT.

[crochambeau]

I'm looking for a way to have no tone knob or volume knob, just one switch to bring the tone cap in or out of the circuit. Is that possible?

Yes, it is possible, but the tone cap also reacts with the resistive voltage divider (pot), so unless you're an ALL ON sort of tone freak you might have to decide on what position the control is set and tack that in place.

You can also retain the toggle and give yourself two options (plus OFF) with an ON-ON-ON switch, but I think I'd go with a rotary too.

[neonblack]

HMMNM.

Gotta think about this. I don't normally mess with in-between settings. I'm either all or nothing which is why I'm considering this.