Count To Five

[multi_s]

Damn I kinda wanna flip my first run for one of the new ones
OG MOJO TOANS GET EM WHILE THEYRE HOT WHO IS KEEN

I will make similar firmware for the OG after we ship this run. it should handle it.

[ogguitar]

Anyway, what is the suggestion for accessing "transcendance mode'. Basically as anyone who has used this knows the buffer is wiped changing modes but I have added an alternate mode where everything stays, but with some cleanup to avoid discontinuty/artifacts in the waveform. How do you want to turn it on/off? I have some ideas but interested to see what people say......



An example of what will happen now:
You record a loop in mode 3 and can layer etc, but you coudl while it's playing move to mode 2, where it will keep that sample and play random slices, and then move to mode 1 where teh full loop recorded in mode 3 would be the starting data in the delay buffer etc.

A second example:
You play in mode 1 and tehn flip to mode 2. The delay buffer acts as a recorded sample and it automatically starts playing back in slices.


I also added a variable LPF in mode 1 which you can access by holding down the soft switch and turning a certain knob to change the cut off. It only affects mode 1 since the amount of transposition up in the other modes is limited to one octave, while in Mode one due to feedback there is potential for more.

The net effect is really not that much different than turning down the feedback but it does color the sound a bit differently and some people asked so there it is.

s

Two things:
1) Words cannot express how excited this just made me to get my hands on mine. Guess I'll settle for this -

2) I like the idea of holding down the soft switch while toggling modes to activate transcendence, but maybe for people who want the transcendence to be always on (pretty sure I'm one of them, but we'll see when I get mine) there could be an internal switch to toggle between no transcendence/transcendence with soft switch + toggle/transcendence always on I'm just ready to get this awesomeness on my board tbh

[Somnambulance]

Anyway, what is the suggestion for accessing "transcendance mode'. Basically as anyone who has used this knows the buffer is wiped changing modes but I have added an alternate mode where everything stays, but with some cleanup to avoid discontinuty/artifacts in the waveform. How do you want to turn it on/off? I have some ideas but interested to see what people say......



An example of what will happen now:
You record a loop in mode 3 and can layer etc, but you coudl while it's playing move to mode 2, where it will keep that sample and play random slices, and then move to mode 1 where teh full loop recorded in mode 3 would be the starting data in the delay buffer etc.

A second example:
You play in mode 1 and tehn flip to mode 2. The delay buffer acts as a recorded sample and it automatically starts playing back in slices.


I also added a variable LPF in mode 1 which you can access by holding down the soft switch and turning a certain knob to change the cut off. It only affects mode 1 since the amount of transposition up in the other modes is limited to one octave, while in Mode one due to feedback there is potential for more.

The net effect is really not that much different than turning down the feedback but it does color the sound a bit differently and some people asked so there it is.

s

Two things:
1) Words cannot express how excited this just made me to get my hands on mine. Guess I'll settle for this -

2) I like the idea of holding down the soft switch while toggling modes to activate transcendence, but maybe for people who want the transcendence to be always on (pretty sure I'm one of them, but we'll see when I get mine) there could be an internal switch to toggle between no transcendence/transcendence with soft switch + toggle/transcendence always on I'm just ready to get this awesomeness on my board tbh

Yeah, I'm down to just have the trancendence always on.

[decomposing]

still need to update my rev h/I board and test things out with the new modes
tempted by the new version as well because it's fleshed out a bit more.
but if I can allow I want both!

anybody use the q modes to make things more musical and then switch back to none to go crazy with it?
that's how I'm seeing it for me.
experimentation vs added on fx.

[weed_killer]

I've tried updating mine about three or four times since the firmware update came out, but for whatever reason it's never worked - haven't been able to get the file right or something. I gave up cause I'm used to to how it works as-is, but at some point I should probably try again. Can't afford a new one cause my dollar is equivalent to sand right now, which is why Scott deals in usd, haha.

[multi_s]

I've tried updating mine about three or four times since the firmware update came out, but for whatever reason it's never worked - haven't been able to get the file right or something. I gave up cause I'm used to to how it works as-is, but at some point I should probably try again. Can't afford a new one cause my dollar is equivalent to sand right now, which is why Scott deals in usd, haha.

If you are having trouble with upgrade you can email me with a more exact description of what's happening. I've had a few people who had to manually point windows to the installed drivers (ie windows update cannot find them) but they are installed in the same directory where Dfuse goes when you install it.

[Inconuucl]

Any news on the 856 for zellersasn?

[multi_s]

Any news on the 856 for zellersasn?

Not today. Also i may have mispoke on how much sampling time it will have in the end. Min 20 seconds though maybe more. when we actually release it it will be more clear. A small bug came back that we thought we fixed earlier so this week we just work on that at the moment and continuing to pack things into the ct5 firmware while i wait for these boards to finally show up.

[Somnambulance]

Any news on the 856 for zellersasn?

Not today. Also i may have mispoke on how much sampling time it will have in the end. Min 20 seconds though maybe more. when we actually release it it will be more clear. A small bug came back that we thought we fixed earlier so this week we just work on that at the moment and continuing to pack things into the ct5 firmware while i wait for these boards to finally show up.

I hope the boards show up fine. If I were you I wouldn't be chill at all with the company, but that's me and I'm kind of a hot head about stuff like that.

[multi_s]

Any news on the 856 for zellersasn?

Not today. Also i may have mispoke on how much sampling time it will have in the end. Min 20 seconds though maybe more. when we actually release it it will be more clear. A small bug came back that we thought we fixed earlier so this week we just work on that at the moment and continuing to pack things into the ct5 firmware while i wait for these boards to finally show up.

I hope the boards show up fine. If I were you I wouldn't be chill at all with the company, but that's me and I'm kind of a hot head about stuff like that.

Ya i think the quality will be fine if not completely excellent. I have some samples and they were all fine/zero errors. I'm not really sure what the hold up has been. If they do ship tomorrow i will be quite relieved.

I will keep you posted.

s

[decomposing]

pretty excite for the next thingy

[decomposing]

any word on the continues sample length in mode 1

or

the delay time going up and down even though it's completely in "sync" 1:1?


my vote is for transcendence being on all the time. dont see why it wouldn't. if you're already down there toggling shit on and off you could just go to mode 1 and lower the feedback or mode 2/3 and reset the sample with the softswitch if you dont like what's being carried over.

use the knobs in mode 1 for something more fun than transcendence on/off imo

[multi_s]

any word on the continues sample length in mode 1

or

the delay time going up and down even though it's completely in "sync" 1:1?


my vote is for transcendence being on all the time. dont see why it wouldn't. if you're already down there toggling shit on and off you could just go to mode 1 and lower the feedback or mode 2/3 and reset the sample with the softswitch if you dont like what's being carried over.

use the knobs in mode 1 for something more fun than transcendence on/off imo

Mode 1 is still discrete lengths. Changing this has become less of a priority for me because i don't feel it has much impact on the end use. It may still happen at some point but it was not a major issue for this update.

The 1:1 issue is potentially resolved but I have not tested it yet to see.

In the end. for the shipping firmware on this run, transcendence is globally enabled or disabled by bypassing the pedal and holding the soft switch. Led indicates on or off and changes about every 500ms you have the soft footswitch held down. So you can switch it on and off in any mode, just bypass, set on or off, re engage. When transcendence is on and the pedal is engaged all blue LED indications are replaced by green and vice versa so it is easy to know when using the pedal if transcendence is already on or off.

The only significant changes to how the modes work (beyond the now optional buffer wipe) is that, with transcendence enabled, mode 2 only uses 1 buffer and you can record and play form it simultaneously. This gives the sort of "real time" randomization some people were looking for. For example, you could set DIR 1 to reverse speed, some small buffer size and high randomization, you should get reversed slices grabbed randomly form the last bit of what you just played. So when you are recording, it records and plays the same buffer, when you stop recording it simply keeps playing that buffer.

The second change is that in Mode 1 you can add a filter to the feedback, or more correctly, you can adjust the cut off of the low pass filter that acts on the feedback loop. To do so you have to hold down the soft switch and turn DIR 1. This filter only affects the sound in Mode 1, it is not global setting. The filter does not effect the clean (dry) channel either.

Anyway, it does look like the boards should be shipping to me later today so I don't think there will be anymore changes to the firm other than looking for/correcting any bugs before shipping the units out.

s

[zoooombiex]

The only significant changes to how the modes work (beyond the now optional buffer wipe) is that, with transcendence enabled, mode 2 only uses 1 buffer and you can record and play form it simultaneously. This gives the sort of "real time" randomization some people were looking for. For example, you could set DIR 1 to reverse speed, some small buffer size and high randomization, you should get reversed slices grabbed randomly form the last bit of what you just played. So when you are recording, it records and plays the same buffer, when you stop recording it simply keeps playing that buffer.

The second change is that in Mode 1 you can add a filter to the feedback, or more correctly, you can adjust the cut off of the low pass filter that acts on the feedback loop. To do so you have to hold down the soft switch and turn DIR 1. This filter only affects the sound in Mode 1, it is not global setting. The filter does not effect the clean (dry) channel either.

Those are some great additions! I'm on the list for the new one, but will it be possible to update older models to add these features?

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i would honestly think it'd be huge to be able to set a continuous buffer length, but that's just me :V

Yes it's nothing personal. Some sort of compromise may happen next major update, but there is no change on the current release.

Those are some great additions! I'm on the list for the new one, but will it be possible to update older models to add these features?

Yes eventually the firm will be ported to all boards. There may be some caveats, but fundamentally it will be the same. For example no previous version has tricolor LED so instead of Green you may settle for purple (both red and blue on) etc.