Project: I got the idea - who's got the skillz?

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Here goes:


I got this Pedal in mind that doesn't seem to exist. So I'll go and describe it, maybe someone either knows someone who builds it anyway and I can purchase it there or even better: someone's got the skills to build it and we do it together!

What I thought up is a delay pedal but with a built in effect loop to alter the delay repeats. so that you could hook whatever you like into the "end of the hallway". Since there are delays that allow you to completely blend the dry signal out, there must be a way to send only the wet signal through the effect chain. Now it would be really badass if the echos would get more and more affected by the effect loop. Think you'd hear the dry signal and the echos would get more and more fuzzed... (or boosted, or flanged... or ... delayed...?) That would be swell, huh?

Also a nice addition or alternative to the swelling would be an expression or CV control for the feedback loop.

What do you solder wizards think? :poke:
I'm pretty sure this is doable, maybe it is also possible to mod an existing delay into being able to do this.
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not sure I understand...do you want the delayed signal to be effected by the pedals in the loop, but to keep the dry signal separate?

I feel like you could hack into a cheap delay pedal (probably completely rehouse it) and put a clean blend in there along with an fx loop at the end of the delay circuit. :idk:
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Like an Utter Stutter but rather than a tremolo-like effect, it'd be an adjustable delay. I don't know how to build one but I'm certain it could work.
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If I get what you're saying correctly, there are a couple delays that do that already including the Deluxe Memory Boy and a digital one I can't recall the name of.

From the DMB manual:
EFFECTS LOOP – The Deluxe Memory Boy has an effects loop feature which allows other effects to be inserted into the feedback loop of the delay block, before the bucket brigade chips. This means that you can put additional effects on your wet signal without changing your dry signal and each time your notes go around the feedback loop, they will also go through the effects loop.
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there are lots of delays out there that do this... you want one with an effects send/return
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zezozeceglutz wrote:If I get what you're saying correctly, there are a couple delays that do that already including the Deluxe Memory Boy and a digital one I can't recall the name of.

From the DMB manual:
EFFECTS LOOP – The Deluxe Memory Boy has an effects loop feature which allows other effects to be inserted into the feedback loop of the delay block, before the bucket brigade chips. This means that you can put additional effects on your wet signal without changing your dry signal and each time your notes go around the feedback loop, they will also go through the effects loop.



Very nice, sounds like it is exactly what I'm looking for! Thanks for the hint into the right direction.
(I've never really looked into these - only the non-deluxe version)


smallsnd/bigsnd wrote:there are lots of delays out there that do this... you want one with an effects send/return


Well, yes, that's an easy way to put it.
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Actually, that Dual Delay that Newark Wilder has in the B/S/T right now has sends and returns for each of the 2 delays, EXP inputs too. It's a pretty sweet one.

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For CV'ed delay though, I gotta say - the Moog Analog Delay is f'n A M A Z I N G. It's expensive, yeah sure, but it does literally everything you can possibly imagine, and then another trillion things you'd never thought of. I was playing one at a friend's house last week using the LFO out from a Goatkeeper to modulate the delay time, so it was kind of making the repeats get further apart and then come compressing and crashing back together with the tremolo'ing on the GK. So sick.
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kosta wrote:For CV'ed delay though, I gotta say - the Moog Analog Delay is f'n A M A Z I N G. It's expensive, yeah sure, but it does literally everything you can possibly imagine, and then another trillion things you'd never thought of. I was playing one at a friend's house last week using the LFO out from a Goatkeeper to modulate the delay time, so it was kind of making the repeats get further apart and then come compressing and crashing back together with the tremolo'ing on the GK. So sick.


Yes, that thing is beautiful. Also it has an fx send/return. Everything I ever wanted.
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