UG demos RM-1N with Shruti Box

[Uncle Grandfather]

So, like, is it possible to get those anywhere anymore? Or is it more stupidly rare stuff?

AFAIK its stupid rare stuff and they are no longer in production.....ALTHOUGH i did find there is a squarewave parade etsy? page where you can preorder the teaspoon, so i don't know? I got lucky and scored this one in the b/s/t. There is another version of it being sold on reverb right now for 500$ as that seems to be the going rate The Hexe Revolver is probably the most similar pedal that i know of that is in production.

[Clockworker]

So, like, is it possible to get those anywhere anymore? Or is it more stupidly rare stuff?

AFAIK its stupid rare stuff and they are no longer in production.....ALTHOUGH i did find there is a squarewave parade etsy? page where you can preorder the teaspoon, so i don't know? I got lucky and scored this one in the b/s/t. There is another version of it being sold on reverb right now for 500$ as that seems to be the going rate The Hexe Revolver is probably the most similar pedal that i know of that is in production.

That's what I thought, but I figured I could ask, you know? And is the Revolver actually in production? I thought that was rare as fuck too. And I mean, it's a cool effect, but not cool enough for what I do to justify that price.

[Uncle Grandfather]

That's what I thought, but I figured I could ask, you know? And is the Revolver actually in production? I thought that was rare as fuck too. And I mean, it's a cool effect, but not cool enough for what I do to justify that price.

Yeah i'm pretty sure he's still offering the Revolver but I havn't checked his website in awhile. I'm pretty sure Hexe stuff has only ever been available direct, so I guess they are sorta rare in that sense and that they are seldom seen on the used market. And yeah, these are pretty unique type effects and depending on the type of music you're playing I don't know if its the sort of thing you would want to use on every song especially if you're just a guitar/bass player ya know? For me, discovering theses sample/hold and glitch type pedals has been a wellspring of inspiration and I have been incorporating them into my new music. Also pedals like the Revolver are a Very useful tool to experiment with when you're producing tracks. Its great on vocals and drums and keys and atmosphere and really everything....I'm only limited by my imagination. So I'm actually finding alot of creative ways to take advantage of these type effects without it sounding gimmicky or repetitive, or even at all like what it is fundamentally doing when I start stacking modulation and delay and etc. to yield incredible sonic textures. But I can totally see how its not for everyone.

[Clockworker]

That's what I thought, but I figured I could ask, you know? And is the Revolver actually in production? I thought that was rare as fuck too. And I mean, it's a cool effect, but not cool enough for what I do to justify that price.

Yeah i'm pretty sure he's still offering the Revolver but I havn't checked his website in awhile. I'm pretty sure Hexe stuff has only ever been available direct, so I guess they are sorta rare in that sense and that they are seldom seen on the used market. And yeah, these are pretty unique type effects and depending on the type of music you're playing I don't know if its the sort of thing you would want to use on every song especially if you're just a guitar/bass player ya know? For me, discovering theses sample/hold and glitch type pedals has been a wellspring of inspiration and I have been incorporating them into my new music. Also pedals like the Revolver are a Very useful tool to experiment with when you're producing tracks. Its great on vocals and drums and keys and atmosphere and really everything....I'm only limited by my imagination. So I'm actually finding alot of creative ways to take advantage of these type effects without it sounding gimmicky or repetitive, or even at all like what it is fundamentally doing when I start stacking modulation and delay and etc. to yield incredible sonic textures. But I can totally see how its not for everyone.

If I could get one for like, $200, $250, maybe $300 depending on the features, I'd consider it. I can definitely see how it's inspiring, and how much fun it would be to play around with. I think I could actually use it sometimes. I make noise, a particular kind most of the time that would not jive with this. So maybe if I were to make more normal, cut up stuff I could make this work, but whatever. Maybe I'll find one for cheap someday, who knows.

This is kinda rambly, I'm tired, whatever.

[Uncle Grandfather]

If I could get one for like, $200, $250, maybe $300 depending on the features, I'd consider it. I can definitely see how it's inspiring, and how much fun it would be to play around with. I think I could actually use it sometimes. I make noise, a particular kind most of the time that would not jive with this. So maybe if I were to make more normal, cut up stuff I could make this work, but whatever. Maybe I'll find one for cheap someday, who knows.

This is kinda rambly, I'm tired, whatever.

Yeah i paid 300$ for the teaspoon, I think that was also the price for the mwfx judder and maybe a little more for the revolver? Oh yeah, this version of the teaspoon also has a CV input so thats another cool feature expanding its usefulness. Used Hexe stuff does show up, if not often, at reasonable prices in the b/s/t so keep an eye open? I play experimental and noise too and have found these effects offer a new avenue to explore, especially if you're like me and are constantly hands on tweaking your effects. The Masf possessed and to a certain extent the raptio are in the same camp and their prices are a little lower if you're wanting to experiment with glitchy pedals. Those two seem pretty popular on ILF so you probably shouldn't have much trouble finding a fair price on a used one and/or with flipping them if they didn't click for you.

[Clockworker]

Yeah i paid 300$ for the teaspoon, I think that was also the price for the mwfx judder and maybe a little more for the revolver? Oh yeah, this version of the teaspoon also has a CV input so thats another cool feature expanding its usefulness. Used Hexe stuff does show up, if not often, at reasonable prices in the b/s/t so keep an eye open? I play experimental and noise too and have found these effects offer a new avenue to explore, especially if you're like me and are constantly hands on tweaking your effects. The Masf possessed and to a certain extent the raptio are in the same camp and their prices are a little lower if you're wanting to experiment with glitchy pedals. Those two seem pretty popular on ILF so you probably shouldn't have much trouble finding a fair price on a used one and/or with flipping them if they didn't click for you.

I actually have a Possessed already, it was the first pedal I bought, it's really fun but I don't use it often, which is why I hesitate to try to get one of these or a Revolver or a Judder or whatever.

[lordgalvar]

There has been some weird stuff with squarewave parade.The guy had some problems and sold licenses for other people to make the devices...but they had to give him 5% for everyone sold in addition to whatever they paid up front (and squarewave parade can still make them). One dude bought a license (that I read about) and still hasn't made anything. Seems like the main guy comes in and out and makes them..but it sound like he went through some rough stuff.

So there is potential for a new production model from two different builders (or whoever picks up the other designs), but we shall see if that dude that bought it at auction can get it together...interesting stuff.

[Uncle Grandfather]

I actually have a Possessed already, it was the first pedal I bought, it's really fun but I don't use it often, which is why I hesitate to try to get one of these or a Revolver or a Judder or whatever.

Yeah I know what you mean. It is a shame they are priced so high, but i understand they are a niche product too with a small market. I'm rather enamoured by this type of effect so of course I'd suggest trying to find a good price on a used one to give it a go The original wooden Judder is the most random and versatile of all the sample/hold pedals so that's what I would recommend but your miles may vary.

There has been some weird stuff with squarewave parade.The guy had some problems and sold licenses for other people to make the devices...but they had to give him 5% for everyone sold in addition to whatever they paid up front (and squarewave parade can still make them). One dude bought a license (that I read about) and still hasn't made anything. Seems like the main guy comes in and out and makes them..but it sound like he went through some rough stuff.

So there is potential for a new production model from two different builders (or whoever picks up the other designs), but we shall see if that dude that bought it at auction can get it together...interesting stuff.

I'd like to know what is up with that squarewave etsy preorder page? Who knows how long its been up?

[kosta]

If you're talking about his BigCartel page, that has been up for at least 4 years, if not 5. Steven has been out of circulation since he tried to port the Teaspoon to the different modular formats. His stuff is fantastic when you can find it though. One of the most exciting makers of the last 10 years.

[univalve]

If you're talking about his BigCartel page, that has been up for at least 4 years, if not 5. Steven has been out of circulation since he tried to port the Teaspoon to the different modular formats. His stuff is fantastic when you can find it though. One of the most exciting makers of the last 10 years.

This.

[Uncle Grandfather]

Thanks Kosta, yeah that's it not etsy.
From the little bit of research it seemed he's been out of the game for awhile now but I came across that preorder and was all

[lordgalvar]

There were some threads on muff wiggler I think that went no where...just the guy that bought the license being kinda weird and never going anywhere haha. Yea, that bigcartel page (and there is another even sketchier one floating around that seems to be a hotbed of malware...but I never actually went to it...just ran across it somehweres).

Too bad man. Time to get your bootstrapper and pic skillz out UG...there is a market to fill!

[aholidayatthesea]

Is the teaspoon a moot point now? What does it do different from the judder?

Also, I'm surprised that the DD3 and DD6 don't get more attention around here. Aren't they essentially the same as a raptio or mini judder for much less? I've seen that the DD3 can be modded with a filter and with faster sample times, too.

[aholidayatthesea]

Also, no judgements in that last post. If I had the money I'd buy a judder/raptio over the DD3 any day of the week solely for coolness. Just curious what other people's thoughts are. I haven't seen many DD3's but I'm really enjoying mine.

[lordgalvar]

UG haz the skillz to make the Judder sound awesome...but me personally I like the DD6, DD5 or DD3 (if I could only have one pedal)...but the judder is way more than both of those in the glitch side. The layer mode is awesome.

Raptio is it's own little noisy beast too. Raptio has the hold mode that is continuous and it also has the momentary switch for quickness...

I think they all get to a similar point through different methods...but the teaspoon sounds like it has a lot more to offer in a different way. Judder has the two different trigger sample modes (env or LFO) and it gets way more modualation-y.

DD5 and DD6 get a lot of mention around here though...just each one is a little different...and fit different styles really.

UG would probably fill you in in more detail, but they all have their +/- (having tried DD3, DD5, DD6, Raptio (ring mod sounds, quickness, noise filled), Possessed (play as you go, layering, added artifacts), CT5 (pitch shifting, more options to mess with the sample...harder to tap in and out), Super Flutter v2 (pitch shifting, easy and quick...but kind of regular), Judder (layers, mod, more dynamic and quick or always on resampling...)...they are all different...)

But UG has given me a lot of GAS with his glitch demos...UC too...it is all about which one fits your style or what you want to do (or which one you let change your style...kind of a blast.). No problem with the DD's here.

Sorry for rambling here UG...